BBC - Seven Ages of Rock

**beautifulrock** · 18/05/2007, 12:32 PM

Interesting series, by the looks of it, starting on BBC this Saturday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/sevenages/

Should be some interesting parts to it and will definately set the Sky plus for it.

**Soper** · 18/05/2007, 12:41 PM

If they don't mention Minor Threat, the Dead Kennedys, Discharge, Sonic Youth, Anarcho (I'd settle for Crass), the LA hardcore punk explosion of the early 80's, or Dinosaur Jr, then I will cry.

**Ash** · 18/05/2007, 12:45 PM

They class Oasis, Blur, REM and Coldplay as Rock

Here's the list of featured artists :

1. Jimi Hendrix
2. John Mayall's Blues Breakers
3. Cream
4. The Beatles
5. The Rolling Stones
6. The Yardbirds
7. The Who
8. Bob Dylan
9. Pink Floyd
10. Genesis
11. Roxy Music
12. Bowie
13. Velvet Underground
14. The Sex Pistols
15. The Ramones
16. Radiohead
17. Clash
18. The Buzzcocks
19. Talking Heads
20. The Slits
21. Television
22. Patti Smith
23. John Cale
24. The Damned
25. New York Dolls
26. Black Sabbath
27. Deep Purple
28. Metallica
29. Iron Maiden
30. Judas Priest
31. The Strokes
32. Ozzy Osbourne
33. Mötley Crüe
34. Bruce Springsteen
35. Queen
36. U2
37. Dire Straits
38. Police
39. Kiss
40. Led Zeppelin
41. Nirvana
42. Black Flag
43. R.E.M.
44. The Pixies
45. Mudhoney
46. Hüsker Dü
47. The White Stripes
48. The Replacements
49. The Smiths
50. Blur
51. The Stone Roses
52. Oasis
53. The Libertines
54. Suede
55. Arctic Monkeys
56. Franz Ferdinand
57. Coldplay

**Soper** · 18/05/2007, 12:57 PM

Mention The Velvet Underground but not The Stooges or MC5! I'm weeping here

**beautifulrock** · 18/05/2007, 1:02 PM

Originally Posted by Soper

Mention The Velvet Underground but not The Stooges or MC5! I'm weeping here

Soper, I am not sure that this programme is for you.

Have to say looking forward to it myself, a few glaring ommissions though.

**Soper** · 18/05/2007, 1:12 PM

I know it may seem like I am being pedantic, but the bands I mentioned aren't exactly obscure unknowns. I mean, everyone knows who Iggy Pop is surely? And if Black Flag get mentioned, then there should be room for Minor Threat. Alas, I'll watch it and see if the nice people at the BBC surprise me.

**stann** · 18/05/2007, 1:22 PM

Originally Posted by Soper

I know it may seem like I am being pedantic, but the bands I mentioned aren't exactly obscure unknowns. I mean, everyone knows who Iggy Pop is surely? And if Black Flag get mentioned, then there should be room for Minor Threat. Alas, I'll watch it and see if the nice people at the BBC surprise me.

They kind of are obscure though. Not to people who inhabit a music forum right enough, but to people watching BBC on Saturday night.
Iggy Pop is a glaring omission, but considering the list obviously had to have a very broad, and mass, appeal I don't think it's that bad. Joy Division aren't there either. Or The Fall. Or The Kinks. We could easily quadruple that list in this thread and still leave someone out who should be on it. They have to stop somewhere I suppose.

Regarding Blag Flag, well I don't think they'd be there either if it wasn't for the excuse to get the telegenic Rollins in for a quote or two.
Also, if it was a straight choice, I'd have the Velvets before the Stooges and MC5 any day.

I'll still watch this as much as I can in the absence of Sky+ though, these type of programmes (like that Classic Album series) are usually much more worth viewing than the subject bands would first suggest.

**Soper** · 18/05/2007, 1:26 PM

I agree with you - Velvets come first for me.

I didn't even bother looking at the 'Indie' programme. I took it as a definite that Joy Division would be there!

**gustavo** · 18/05/2007, 1:29 PM

Originally Posted by Ash

They class Oasis, Blur, REM and Coldplay as Rock

Here's the list of featured artists :

Presume they are talking rock in the broadest sense of the word.

**stann** · 18/05/2007, 1:38 PM

Originally Posted by Soper

I agree with you - Velvets come first for me.

I didn't even bother looking at the 'Indie' programme. I took it as a definite that Joy Division would be there!

Just looked at the link meself now, as opposed to the list of bands above, and it is glaringly incomplete, very ad hoc.

Indie began with The Smiths did it indeed? OK that's not what they're saying, I know.
Still though, they have to start (and end) somewhere, and, omissions and all, I'll still be tuning in, even to the stadium rock show!

**stann** · 18/05/2007, 1:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ash

They class Oasis, Blur, REM and Coldplay as Rock

Two-Chord Pub-Rock, Arch-And-Slightly-Camp Rock, Country Whine-Rock and Wet Rock.
All important niches that deserve the right to be represented!

**Soper** · 18/05/2007, 2:03 PM

All this just makes me want to go out and buy some vinyl

**Lionel Ritchie** · 19/05/2007, 9:04 AM

Originally Posted by Ash

They class Oasis, Blur, REM and Coldplay as Rock

Here's the list of featured artists :

1. Jimi Hendrix
2. John Mayall's Blues Breakers
3. Cream
4. The Beatles
5. The Rolling Stones
6. The Yardbirds
7. The Who
8. Bob Dylan
9. Pink Floyd
10. Genesis
11. Roxy Music
12. Bowie
13. Velvet Underground
14. The Sex Pistols
15. The Ramones
16. Radiohead
17. Clash
18. The Buzzcocks
19. Talking Heads
20. The Slits
21. Television
22. Patti Smith
23. John Cale
24. The Damned
25. New York Dolls
26. Black Sabbath
27. Deep Purple
28. Metallica
29. Iron Maiden
30. Judas Priest
31. The Strokes
32. Ozzy Osbourne
33. Mötley Crüe
34. Bruce Springsteen
35. Queen
36. U2
37. Dire Straits
38. Police
39. Kiss
40. Led Zeppelin
41. Nirvana
42. Black Flag
43. R.E.M.
44. The Pixies
45. Mudhoney
46. Hüsker Dü
47. The White Stripes
48. The Replacements
49. The Smiths
50. Blur
51. The Stone Roses
52. Oasis
53. The Libertines
54. Suede
55. Arctic Monkeys
56. Franz Ferdinand
57. Coldplay

I am looking forward to this but I had to re-read that several times to make sure a programme purporting to examine the "ages of rock" decided not to deal with The Doors.

A couple of observations ...nothing but unadulterated snobbery keeps Status Quo out of the early/mid seventies menu.

Why Judas Priest but not Motorhead?
.....Suede but not Pulp?

Motley Crue?

"Oh help me Mrs Meddlicot, I don't know what to do
I've only got three bullets and there's four of Motley Crue"

**Lev Yashin** · 19/05/2007, 9:38 AM

Originally Posted by Soper

I know it may seem like I am being pedantic, but the bands I mentioned aren't exactly obscure unknowns. I mean, everyone knows who Iggy Pop is surely? And if Black Flag get mentioned, then there should be room for Minor Threat. Alas, I'll watch it and see if the nice people at the BBC surprise me.

Iggy who??

**jebus** · 19/05/2007, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by shannonman

Iggy who??

God I hope thats a joke.

And why include the Libertines? Have never sold huge amounts of records, become more famous for Doherty shagging Kate Moss then anything else, their popularity is strictly a British Isles thing and are only really rated by people who read the NME, i.e. people who's opinion shouldn't matter

**gustavo** · 19/05/2007, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by jebus

God I hope thats a joke.

And why include the Libertines? Have never sold huge amounts of records, become more famous for Doherty shagging Kate Moss then anything else, and are only really rated by people who read the NME, i.e. people who's opinion shouldn't matter

Ehmm , the BBC is British so of course its gonna have acts that are popular mostly in Britain in its rock story . You could probably say the same about Blur , Suede and the Stone Roses from that list alone,

**Soper** · 19/05/2007, 11:57 AM

Thinking about this again, Ifeel I may have been slightly picky with regards bands mentioned. However, having no Motorhead, Joy Division or Sonic Youth is tragic