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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Lord View Post
    Typical 'British' attitudes towards Inzaghi. Having seen him play (as opposed to watching him on TV with a biased Brit commentary) it is obvious he is a superb sniffer; hanging off the last defender, using the width of the pitch to draw defenders, moving inside to cause confusion, totally focused and being instinctively in the right place to take advantage when the ball breaks loose. He was superb against Liverpool, using his body and positioning to create one goal, and being a craftsman striker to score the second, decisive goal.
    Milan were nervous and careless but still tried to play football while Liverpool were merely hard-working and clueless. Steven Gerrard - I rest my case; the dipper was a waste of space. Italy are now World champions and Champions League winners yet the pub-loving Paddies still swear allegiance to the Premiership because it's all they see when they go to the boozer. Forza Italia! Inglese Merda! Gli Irlandesi sono ignari!
    look i support united in english football but thats a joke to say that.... he was liverpools best player...look at the crap around him..pennant,zenden etc... and he's won games for them on his own....
    this is exactly the critisism ronaldo gets if he has a bad game...''he's crap..this proves it'' cant play well in EVERY game.... thats not even the case with gerrard its if liverpool lose he'll be called that.....
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    He was playing almost as a striker which was a bit of a waste.
    He worked very hard but i was shocked at his lack of stamina.
    The legs were gonw after 60 minutes and he should have been taken off for a striker rather than moved back to the middle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilberto_eire View Post
    look i support united in english football but thats a joke to say that.... he was liverpools best player...look at the crap around him..pennant,zenden etc... and he's won games for them on his own....
    this is exactly the critisism ronaldo gets if he has a bad game...''he's crap..this proves it'' cant play well in EVERY game.... thats not even the case with gerrard its if liverpool lose he'll be called that.....
    What exactly did Gerrard do? Even more to the point, was he effective? Nil points on both counts. Compared to Riise (for Liverpool) and Inzahgi (Milan) - who both put in splendid mental and physical performances - Liverpool's golden boy was rubbish. In a game that really mattered. And don't get me going about Ronaldo! Beckham with bobs on. Bull****. Give me Paul Scholes any day because he's a consistently intelligent footballer who performs far more effectively. If you're a United fan you should know this as fact.

    Risteard: it's all about positional sense. Inzahgi was the only player who moved purposefully from the free kick (look at the replay!) and his deflection created the goal that changed the tone of the game. If he wasn't alert it wouldn't have gone in. QED. He's class. Watch him playing live rather than on TV and you'll see his true worth; I've rarely seen a striker work so hard and with such conviction - and it's all off the shoulder of the last defender. What a pain in the arse! He's no Marco Van Basten but his work rate and consistency is chilling. Football is all in the mind.

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    The only players who were decent for Liverpool (I thought) were Mascherano, who shackled Kaka reasonably well all night. No surprise that after he went off, nobody closed down Kaka to send Inzaghi through for the second goal, Riise, who was dependable as ever, and Finnan, who was just decent.

    Others, like Zenden, Gerrard, Pennant, Kuyt worked hard but produced very little throughout. Gerrard needed to be deeper (which I would say is Benitez's fault), Zenden needed to stop whinging, and Pennant, having gotten past the fullback, needed to actually put a decent cross in.

    Liverpool had lots of possesion, but showed little cunning up front. Milan contained them relatively - most of Liverpool's chances came from silly Milan errors, which were plentiful (Time for Maldini to retire I think). In fact the whole game was full of under-hit, over-hit, mis-hit passes, poor control, lack of communiction.

    Not a great game, but I would say the better team won
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Lord
    What exactly did Gerrard do? Even more to the point, was he effective? Nil points on both counts.
    Gerrard, like every other footballer is not effective when played out of position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Lord View Post
    Risteard: it's all about positional sense. Inzahgi was the only player who moved purposefully from the free kick (look at the replay!) and his deflection created the goal that changed the tone of the game. If he wasn't alert it wouldn't have gone in. QED. He's class.
    Jayz, that's really stretching it imo.
    I think the ball was on its way into the net before he even realised it hit him.
    Agree that he's top class alright though.
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    HAHAHA I'm so happy they got beat. I don't think I could hear about Liverpool's special crowd being the difference for another 18 months. I don't think one player had a stand out game last night, very poor all round. Gattuso was useless. Cannot believe this is the same Milan side that tore apart Man Utd. Ok it didn't help that Man Utd were playing their second string defence but still....
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    Both teams where under par.

    I have to say i'm delighted with the result, but the game was dross. I think I'll stick with Linfield vs Armagh City next season. I was half contemplating going over to watch a few games. But the last load of matches I have seen on tv have sickened me. Absolute rubbish.
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    Was better than the FA Cup final, but only because both teams looked to get forward. If Liverpool had any attacking edge they'd have slaughtered a very off form Milan. Zendan, Pennant and Gerrard are not world class attackers and Kuyt can't do it all himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Lord View Post
    Typical 'British' attitudes towards Inzaghi. Having seen him play (as opposed to watching him on TV with a biased Brit commentary) it is obvious he is a superb sniffer; hanging off the last defender, using the width of the pitch to draw defenders, moving inside to cause confusion, totally focused and being instinctively in the right place to take advantage when the ball breaks loose. He was superb against Liverpool, using his body and positioning to create one goal, and being a craftsman striker to score the second, decisive goal.
    Milan were nervous and careless but still tried to play football while Liverpool were merely hard-working and clueless. Steven Gerrard - I rest my case; the dipper was a waste of space. Italy are now World champions and Champions League winners yet the pub-loving Paddies still swear allegiance to the Premiership because it's all they see when they go to the boozer. Forza Italia! Inglese Merda! Gli Irlandesi sono ignari!
    Is there any other forwards in Italy in the same mould as Inzaghi BL? Or is his style unique. I cant think of any like him in Ireland or England. Irish and British coaches seem obsessed with forwards getting involved in the build up play rather than just score goals. Just scoring goals doesnt seem to make you a good forward over here. Maybe the way Italians see their forwards is different
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoops1 View Post
    Is there any other forwards in Italy in the same mould as Inzaghi BL? Or is his style unique. I cant think of any like him in Ireland or England. Irish and British coaches seem obsessed with forwards getting involved in the build up play rather than just score goals. Just scoring goals doesnt seem to make you a good forward over here. Maybe the way Italians see their forwards is different

    I can only think of two other modern day footballers who play like this - Pauletta and Crespo, they don't care about contributing to the game or holding the ball up. Their games are based on making off the ball runs and hoping that a team mate will pass the perfect ball. Watching Pauletta in Paris vs Derry was an experience. I always thought he was useless, but seeing the runs he made showed why he scores so many goals at his level. I would love Mark Farren at Derry to watch these guys in action, take note and do nothing but make these type of runs, but alas you need the midfielders to supply the passes!.
    As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls

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    Van Nistlerooy never contributed to the build up, but he could score you plenty of goals.

    I would rather have Van Nistlerooy who scores plenty of goals, than Saha who adds to the build up and doesn't score enough....when he decides to play.

    I think the Italians have the right idea and that's why they are World Champions and they also have the European champions in their league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onenilgameover View Post
    I love abbey travel...They cancelled my Champions League Package today but I still love them....
    See it as a positive thing - how many times could you go to Anfield with that money or better still how many Shels games could you go to.
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    Thumbs up

    Do you know what I enjoyed about last night's game? The trainer was only on the pitch once (late in the 2nd half and he got shooed off with the player) and there was very little diving and feigning injury compared to some games I have seen. Credit to both sides.

    Oh, and by the way, is Kaka now c*ap because he failed to perform at the highest level ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandro View Post
    Not really an exciting game, Benitez did a great tactic job .
    i dont think so!!! one forward, end the game with two on....whats that all about.
    and man what was zenden doing on the pitch,
    who so late to introduce crouch,
    what the hell was kewell on for,
    and who is that guy that came on in the end
    go ahead liverpool give benitiez 5o million , and he will blow it all away

    craig bellamy?

    happy to see liverpool lose, rubbish team, end of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    Do you know what I enjoyed about last night's game? The trainer was only on the pitch once (late in the 2nd half and he got shooed off with the player) and there was very little diving and feigning injury compared to some games I have seen. Credit to both sides.

    Oh, and by the way, is Kaka now c*ap because he failed to perform at the highest level ?
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    Match was well refereed especially seeing through Kewell falling over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoops1 View Post
    Is there any other forwards in Italy in the same mould as Inzaghi BL? Or is his style unique. I cant think of any like him in Ireland or England. Irish and British coaches seem obsessed with forwards getting involved in the build up play rather than just score goals. Just scoring goals doesnt seem to make you a good forward over here. Maybe the way Italians see their forwards is different
    Michael Owen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge View Post
    Michael Owen.
    I think Owen can beat players aswell though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoops1 View Post
    I think Owen can beat players aswell though.
    Nah, he just runs very fast around them and tries to keep up with that ball after another horrendous first touch
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    James Richardson wrote a great piece about Inzaghi in the Guardian recently. No obvious special ability other than always being in the right place. The way he peeled off the defenders to say onside was quality but Inzaghi doesn't always play offside so well.

    Here's the article, I thought it was brilliant & in hindsight, a bit prophetic.

    http://football.guardian.co.uk/champ...070424,00.html

    Throughout his career I've thought he was overrated, but you simply can't argue with his record.

    I think Liverpool were right to use width to attack Milan, the problem was that their wide players were ordinary at best, and in Zenden's case way below the standard required.

    Something had to give in Benitez' selection. He clearly wanted a ball winner and ball user in midfield he wanted 2 wide players and he needed to accomodate Gerrard. The part that gave was the second striker and it didn't pay off. Maybe Alonso should have made way for Gerrard and he could have played two orthodox forwards.

    It astounds me that many of the best players in the modern game are so one footed. Gerrard, a player with superb ball striking technique, should have been more comfortable taking that chance with his left.
    Last edited by Stuttgart88; 24/05/2007 at 4:19 PM.

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