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    I think it's Tuohy, but I thought he'd be the last person to bear resentment to Heighway.

    Noely, can you elaborate? I was too young to appreciate any politics during Tuohy's time in charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endabob1 View Post
    Owen, Carragher, Gerrard have all come through the ranks uner Heighway and they won the Youth Cup last week so he seems to have the credentials alright......You really think the FAI would want some with credentials and experience
    Apparently, that's why Benitez got rid of him because not one youth player has made the step up in almost a decade - Gerrard and Carragher the last 2. Seems logical enough, but a bit unfair because it's not really Heighways fault if Benitez doesn't trust any of the youth players to give them a chance. Houllier was the same before him. I remember when Ritchie Partridge was doing great things for the youths, then reserves, then out on loan but Houllier never gave him a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endabob1 View Post
    Owen, Carragher, Gerrard have all come through the ranks uner Heighway and they won the Youth Cup last week so he seems to have the credentials alright......You really think the FAI would want some with credentials and experience

    Yea but Michael Owen is basicaly a Robbie Keane who can't do cartwheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I think it's Tuohy, but I thought he'd be the last person to bear resentment to Heighway.

    Noely, can you elaborate? I was too young to appreciate any politics during Tuohy's time in charge.
    Sounds like its Ray Treacy but I could be wrong.
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    I did a google search "fai rasher" and got a Paul Kimmage article on Liam Tuohy.

    Extract:

    On his [Liam Tuohy’s] return to Dublin in 1963 he won a double with Shamrock Rovers and was offered the job as player-manager when Seán Thomas resigned. Over the next five years, Rovers proved unbeatable in the Cup. The man they called 'Rasher' had found his true calling: Management.

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    Noely is spending way too much time watching those Bollywood classics.

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    Rasher = Tuohy

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    I "met" Heighway and most of the Irish team in a hotel just off of Camden street around 1975-76 before a friendly match. He refused to sign an autograph for me because I didn't say please! He did seem a bit aloof but so what. He was never a fans favourite and was accused of either not trying or not turning up. So almost a combo of Keane and Keane maybe in that way. But I always thought he was a class player. Almost up there with Giles and Brady. His performance against France away in 1979 was incredible for most of the game. He beat their full back everytime. I would be very interested in hearing Giles' and Brady's opionions on Heighway. As both a player for Ireland and as a coach.

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    Is it true that he made his Ireland debut before his Liverpool debut? - its mentioned on the youtube video link above.
    Also, how come he won so few caps??

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedder View Post
    Is it true that he made his Ireland debut before his Liverpool debut? - its mentioned on the youtube video link above.
    Also, how come he won so few caps??
    Exact same way the likes og Giggs win (relatively) few caps
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    Quote Originally Posted by nedder View Post
    Is it true that he made his Ireland debut before his Liverpool debut? - its mentioned on the youtube video link above.
    Also, how come he won so few caps??
    From the time he was first capped in 1970 to the time has was last capped in 1981, Ireland played 66 internations, Steve Heighway played in 34 of those, which was a decent number when you consider the huge number of games that Liverpool, because of their success, were playing season after season.

    At Liverpool, Heighway won 4 league titles, 2 European Cups, 2 UEFA Cups, 1 FA Cup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar View Post
    He did seem a bit aloof but so what. He was never a fans favourite and was accused of either not trying or not turning up. So almost a combo of Keane and Keane maybe in that way. But I always thought he was a class player. Almost up there with Giles and Brady. His performance against France away in 1979 was incredible for most of the game. He beat their full back everytime. I would be very interested in hearing Giles' and Brady's opionions on Heighway. As both a player for Ireland and as a coach.
    Were you at the Ireland v NI game in '79 when Giles was manager and he substituted Heighway, the crowd erupted with a sustained spate of booing directed at Giles. I don't think the supporters gave much of a second thought to Heighway's aloofness, they just wanted to see the full back on his árse. Heighway played in the vast majority of competitive games. AFAIR there was something negative in the papers on a few occasions about Heighway pulling out of friendlies.
    Now about that sing song?

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    [QUOTE=geysir;679991]Were you at the Ireland v NI game in '79 when Giles was manager and he substituted Heighway, the crowd erupted with a sustained spate of booing directed at Giles. I don't think the supporters gave much of a second thought to Heighway's aloofness, they just wanted to see the full back on his árse. Heighway played in the vast majority of competitive games. AFAIR there was something negative in the papers on a few occasions about Heighway pulling out of friendlies.
    Now about that sing song?[/QUOTE

    I bumped into the "Sons of Ulster" coming off the train. Surreal stuff with Trevor McDonald (ITV Newsreader) standing on Landsdowne road with a microphone as the Ireland fans (12 to 15 year olds mostly early comers) waiting outside the ground. And then off the train came half the Shankill road led by 3 skinheads with a Union Jack on a full staff. All bumping into kids really and McDonald as he was facing away from them. And then we played crap! That was a horrible game. The FAI site has the game at Dalymount! I can barely remember Heighway doing anything in that game. or anyone else for that matter. Givens missed our one good chance. That was the strangest home game I think have ever been at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Were you at the Ireland v NI game in '79 when Giles was manager and he substituted Heighway....
    That game was played in September 78.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhoops View Post
    From the time he was first capped in 1970 to the time has was last capped in 1981, Ireland played 66 internations, Steve Heighway played in 34 of those, which was a decent number when you consider the huge number of games that Liverpool, because of their success, were playing season after season.

    At Liverpool, Heighway won 4 league titles, 2 European Cups, 2 UEFA Cups, 1 FA Cup.
    During that period we played our matches on Sunday afternoon with players getting the overnight boat after playing for their clubs on the saturday. Not enough time to recover from knocks hence the withdrawals. We also played alot of friendlies away in places like Poland - they are well documented as total shables, Revie stopped Giles from travelling.

    Anyway, Heighway was a legend.

    I remember when John Barnes first went to Anfield he was given the nickname - 'Tarmac' (ie the black Heighway)

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    Quote Originally Posted by stojkovic View Post
    During that period we played our matches on Sunday afternoon
    Really?


    Not my recollection.


    Dalymount had floodlights installed in late 1960's.

    From 72 on definitely Wednesday's afternoons or evenings. Post '75 Wednesday afternoons at Lansdowne.
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    The last Sunday game AFAIR was the one where Dunphy was substituted at half time against Austria, the only silver lining on that darkest of dark football days.
    1970 or 1971
    I'm sure Superhoops will pop up with the precise detail

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    Quote Originally Posted by soccerc View Post
    Really?

    Not my recollection.

    Dalymount had floodlights installed in late 1960's.

    From 72 on definitely Wednesday's afternoons or evenings. Post '75 Wednesday afternoons at Lansdowne.
    I didnt mean throughout Heighways career, but certainly at the start. You are right about the switch to Lansdowne and the floodlights at Dalyer. I think it had more to do with clubs not releasing their players mid-week especially away trips to Poland in trains, planes and transit vans.

    We did however play Poland four times AWAY in that 10/11 years and toured South America in 72, 74 and 82.

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