QuoteThey are not investors, they are speculators. And as football fans we're right to be sceptical as Rovers, Shels and countless clubs across the water (Exeter, Wrexham etc etc) can vouch for.Originally Posted by mr.untitled
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They are not investors, they are speculators. And as football fans we're right to be sceptical as Rovers, Shels and countless clubs across the water (Exeter, Wrexham etc etc) can vouch for.
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Apologies: I've re-read the thread and seem to have had my opinion skewed by you calling someone a WUM early on.
This seems to be the case here, particularly given that everything seems to rest on whether or not they can get planning permission to build a small town, about the size of Kilkenny.
You can't spell failure without FAI
When will the '06 accounts be released?
Based on the dates on the previous ones, I'd guess August.
You can't spell failure without FAI
I can understand the skepticism,
can you speculate with out investing?
Call me blind or naive but a few posts on this thread contain an element of the green eyed monster.
Stu, its actually your new sig i find misguided
I don't understand why you think this. Drogheda are in a bad way financially. No one's gloating, and no one's offered any evidence to the contrary.
You can't spell failure without FAI
I don't see anything misguided about it. In fact, your previous sentence sums exactly why I think it's apt.
I'd be careful with this. The directors give the money to Company A, which in turn gives it to Company B. So you have a situation where Company B owes Company A, which in turn owes the directors. But Company A appears to have turned the loan into shares, which means Company B no longer owes Company A, but as far as I can see, Company A still owes the directors. The E1m deficit has simply shifted companies, but it's still there.
In fact, to use your wording above, the shareholder does have to sell the shares to realise anything, but the 99.9% shareholder of Hinge Trading Limited is Drogheda United Football Club (O2) Limited, not Hoey et al.
Mr Untitled - do you understand my sig now?
you presumed shels fans had their heads in the sand with reguards to the running of their club last year and you presume we have our heads in the sand re. the running of our club now, is that it?
i disagree, However if you are right and we do a 'Shelbourne' on it i will bow to your better judgement. untill that time i'l be giving your posts about the reckless nature of our clubs finances a miss.
Are you willing to provide any sort of back-up to your assertion?
I think time has shown that Shels fans clearly did have their heads in the sand over their club's situation. Reading back through their forum shows that. Many of those sentiments - especially the jealously one - are now being echoed by Drogs fans.
I don't think most Drogs fans have their head in the sand (well not any more). Its fairly obvious that if this new stadium does not come off this year then we are off to Division 1.
However a lot of Drogs on here are pretty close to the club and the word from the three amigos is that they do not expect the whole thing to go belly up.
I always went on what they had to say. I think they screwed up the first attempt to build the ground in Louth. There is something very weird going on in Meath. Last January Meath cc agreed that the Bryanstown area would have 5000 houses sometime in the future. I have no idea what has changed, if anything, or why planning permission is not a formality. Its amazing that most of the EL, if not all is behind Rovers against Thomas Davis but if you go to the East Meath blog you find EL fans saying that we should not be given permission for a ground
So until we get planning permission or go to the LSL I am just enjoying what will probably be our most successful season ever.
You never know, we may win the Setanta cup for the Eircom league, although reading on here it appears most of you want Linfield to win, hence the negativity of most of the Drogs.
Anyway my sig hasn't changed for months.
Hunky Dorys Park - could be worse, we could be going to Old Trafford every other week
are you actually bothered what happens to dufc or would you just love to see us go to the wall .No drogs fans that i know are that naive to think everything is all good ,and that we are not in seriuos trouble if the stadium dosent go ahead .WE KNOW ! what do you want us to do about it .come on here and express our concerns so people like you with a gripe against the club can have a pop at every oppourtunity .And Tbh i would rather play in the first division than be a supporter of UCD, so i kind of understand your bitterness towards us .We have potential to do something really good in Irish football , were as ucd have fcuk all and never will have .
See posts 8, 10 and 11 in this thread.
My sig stands.
And for the record, I don't want to see Drogs go belly up, as I didn't want to see Shels going belly up. I'd much rather they were stable, well run clubs. But what I want is irrelevant in the face of facts.
dont give a flying fcuk about your sig tbh , and all your posts regarding us come across like your youd be happy to see us going down .But as i stated your a ucd fan so youve nothing to really gloat about have you
Wow. E1500 here, E50 there. Yep, that'll turn things around.celdrog and ndrog the chaps right we do nothing for the club its terrible really
http://www.irishfootienetwork.com/viewtopic.php?t=7097
http://www.irishfootienetwork.com/viewtopic.php?t=6804
THe similarities with Shels abound.
Kevin, I know you don't actually delight in Drogheda's predicament, but your argument would be taken a bit more seriously if you didn't engage in this kind of wang measurement contest with those who don't want to hear it.
You can't spell failure without FAI
Jeez, wouldn't the colour of the jerseys or merchandise be a clue? Or even the crests? If it really comes to it couldn't you just ask them?We looked from Shelbourne fans to Drogheda fans, from Drogheda fans to Shelbourne fans and from Shels fans to Drogs fans again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Not so much impossible as just not putting in the effort as far as I'm concerned.
#NeverStopNotGivingUp
Not really sure that's fair.
First off, there's no real wang arguments, from me anyway. There's plenty of "your argument is silly, and here's why".
Second off, my argument stands up perfectly, and any allegation of "wang arguments" can't detract from that point.
What annoys me, like Dodge, is the tendency to reduce serious debates to "You're a UCD fan, therefore your views are silly" or "You're just jealous." or the classic "You hate Doolin, therefore your views are silly" (And that's three different posters I've picked on there, not just the one isolated incident) Alternatively, they go off crying to others where they'll pity themselves without actually discussing the actual issues (cosmo's an exception there).
Like them or not, Rovers fans have shown us how to take over a club, and fans (not all fans) of clubs like Shels, Drogheda and Dublin City have been quite content to ignore what's going on, deny everything with a host of stupid arguments and then boom! Another club gone, another farce for the league. It's just so predictable at this stage, and it makes a mockery of the league when clubs are run that recklessly and no-one bothers trying to do anything about it.
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Last edited by pineapple stu; 08/05/2007 at 8:18 PM.
It is money, and fair dues to you.
But it's not going to come anywhere near saving the club, which is what you need to be looking at. That's why I dismissed it (perhaps a little heavy-handedly).
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