Election 2007

**BohsPartisan** · 17/05/2007, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by pete

There is a guy in Cork South Central (Morgan) running on a 9/11 conspiracy issue.

Have to say after watching the video you posted I feel genuinely sorry for that guy.

**Lim till i die** · 17/05/2007, 2:40 PM

Originally Posted by pete

There is a guy in Cork South Central (Morgan) running on a 9/11 conspiracy issue.

That's almost as wacky as the Greens running in Limerick East

**Block G Raptor** · 18/05/2007, 6:27 PM

Originally Posted by Conor H

SF-What have they got to offer?

Quality affordable and social housing and a health service that works for a start

**Matchman** · 18/05/2007, 7:32 PM

Quality affordable and social housing and a health service that works for a start

Its a pity Joseph Rafferty will never get to use the wonderful Sinn Fein sponsored health service

**Dodge** · 18/05/2007, 7:41 PM

Originally Posted by Block G Raptor

Quality affordable and social housing and a health service that works for a start

LOL

No seriously...

**dahamsta** · 19/05/2007, 5:56 PM

Originally Posted by Block G Raptor

Quality affordable and social housing and a health service that works for a start

Not without a budget I'm afraid.

**Block G Raptor** · 20/05/2007, 3:08 PM

Originally Posted by dahamsta

Not without a budget I'm afraid.

Obviously not without a budget. the money is there and the potential is there all thats missing is a will to spend the money where its needed ! that will has been missing in successive gov's. I am by no means suggesting that I want to see sinn fein ever being in government on their own but I do feel that in coalition with say FF they'll do a lot better for joe soap taxpayer than the PD could ever manage

**pete** · 20/05/2007, 3:15 PM

I am surprised no political party has attempted to cost a NHS style system. I've only heard of talk of adding the money spent on private insurance into the public system but would that be enough? If it was costed at least voters could make an informed choice.

Provision of social housing in huge numbers would probably undermine the house market as it is currently leading to massive negative equity. Sure if Gerry Adams can afford to pay for two homes on the average industrial wage then do we need social housing?

**Raheny Red** · 20/05/2007, 4:02 PM

This looney in Wicklow is running for the election:

James Tallon

He has declared his farm an independent country, the Independent Republic of Glasnost. He has labelled two stables on his land as Passport Control and Duty Free.

And people have actually voted for him

http://www.electionsireland.org/candidate.cfm?id=3417

**jebus** · 20/05/2007, 5:07 PM

Does anyone else think of McDowell whe listening to this guy's ideas??

**rebelarmyexile** · 20/05/2007, 5:08 PM

Anyone who votes for SF/IRA is thick, moronic and Gullible FACT..

Scary to see they are doing so well on this poll. Does not say much for posters here.

**BohsPartisan** · 20/05/2007, 5:11 PM

While I have no love for SF, I think you need to back up what you are saying. Do you think they are any less gullible than those who voted for the parties that broke 20 of their election promises last time around?

**pete** · 20/05/2007, 5:30 PM

I've finally got my hands on their Manifesto. While they have far left tendencies they are not honest about & document is filled with shopping list for interest groups just like any centre based party. Hard to know what SF stand for anymore.

- U-turn on Corporation Tax but "reserve right to increase if need extra funds"
- Re-Nationalise Aer Lingus. (to what purpose I don't know)
- National Exploration Company. No mention of the cost despite exploration being 1 in 30 long shot.
- Establish an All-Ireland mobile phone network. Is this a state run National Mobile company?
- Negotiate All-Ireland tax harmonisation. Not sure how they can achieve this without raising out tax to the UK one.
- Control fish stocks by limiting foreign fleet quotas (are we leaving the EU?)

**rebelarmyexile** · 20/05/2007, 5:56 PM

The main problem with SF/IRA voters is that they are mostly from a Lower Working Class background.
SF/IRA prey on the less educated and less aware members of society who in many cases done really know what they are voting for.

Having Read SF/IRA's manifesto i was amazed to see they have not costed any of their policies. but i suppose they dont need to as they have no chance (thank god) of implementing them.

A party that has no chance of being in Gov (in majority) can promise you the world as they know they will not get a chance to deliver them.

SF/IRA have not changed they are still Criminals and Terrorists, only now in the disguise of Mary Lou.

**rebelarmyexile** · 20/05/2007, 6:00 PM

oh why would SF/IRA want a state Run Mobile phone network for any reason other than monitoring the public.

SF/IRA are the Irish equivelent of the BNP, a biggoted extreme left/right (who knows) authoritarian party.

One would have more libertarian rights in Iran, than an Ireland under SF

**BohsPartisan** · 20/05/2007, 6:19 PM

Originally Posted by rebelarmyexile

Having Read SF/IRA's manifesto i was amazed to see they have not costed any of their policies.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the costings arguement is a red herring. The government is flinging money around on useless projects like the port tunnel and paying a private company 600 million for a bridge that cost 50 million to build.

**GavinZac** · 20/05/2007, 6:29 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the costings arguement is a red herring. The government is flinging money around on useless projects like the port tunnel and paying a private company 600 million for a bridge that cost 50 million to build.

Thats nice, but the discrepancies in FG's plans are in the billions rather than millions.

**BohsPartisan** · 20/05/2007, 6:39 PM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

Thats nice, but the discrepancies in FG's plans are in the billions rather than millions.

Wasn't talking about FGs plans, however they were just two examples.

**dahamsta** · 20/05/2007, 7:23 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the costings arguement is a red herring. The government is flinging money around on useless projects like the port tunnel and paying a private company 600 million for a bridge that cost 50 million to build.

Absolutely, but at least they budgeted for it to some extent. There are no budgetary measures in the SF manifesto. None.

**Lim till i die** · 21/05/2007, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by rebelarmyexile

The main problem with SF/IRA voters is that they are mostly from a Lower Working Class background.
SF/IRA prey on the less educated and less aware members of society who in many cases done really know what they are voting for.

That's pretty condescending in fairness man not to mention a little light on the facts

Sinn Fein score highly amongst the urban working class as they are the only major party which puts up any kind of socialist facade (however false)

Couple this with their often excellent work at local community level and it doesn't take a genius......

Are their policies any more mad cap then that most beloved of the middle-classes Green Party?

Man for man would they make any less capable ministers than some of the Fianna Fail clowns?

Stupidity among the Irish electorate is by no means confined to the working class. One look at our current government/political system will tell you that.

Frankly to suggest otherwise smacks of snobbery and ignorant snobbery at that

SF/IRA have not changed they are still Criminals and Terrorists, only now in the disguise of Mary Lou

Careful Now

She was in Ogra Fianna Fail for fupp sake

Greasy poll climber? Most Definitely

Criminal and Terrorist?