Football and Socialism

[Lim till i die]

I'm not your lacky buddy. You're not the boss of me. I have rights, you know...

Stoopid Democracy

[dcfcsteve]

Yes I know, I was supporting you. In that the majority of people are stupid so we couldn't possibly hope that they could vote for the right thing. Sorry, not stupid, misguided.

Oh I get it now !

It's not the fact that socialism has been an abject failure everywhere its been tried.

It's not that socialism is inherently unworkable because it pretends that certain fundamental aspects of human nature don't exist.

It's not the fact that those advocating socialism have completely and utterly failed to present a convincing case for why people should vote for or support their ideology.

The reason we don't have socialism is that people are just too darn stupid - sorry, misguided - to know what's good for them.

Right on brother. I suspect you've lurched so far to the left that you've gone full circle and popped out on the extreme right, with an attitude like that....

[Lim till i die]

Right on brother. I suspect you've lurched so far to the left that you've gone full circle and popped out on the extreme right, with an attitude like that....

Happens me all the time

[dcfcsteve]

AFAIK, they still do a similar thing in the FA Cup. I remeber when Portsmouth played Man U at Old Trafford earlier this year they were entitled to something like 45% of gate receipts after expenses, iirc.

All major cup competitions do this. It's based on the principle that it's only luck of the draw that determines if you're home or away in the cup, so it's therefore fair to split the proceeds evenly.

They used to allow clubs to switch the ties on effectively money-making grounds (an interesting balancing of socialist redistribution and capitalist big-club influence), but that's been clamped-down on now

With league games, each club has a home and away tie with each other club, so the argument is why should the bigger, more popular clubs be effectively punished for their support levels by giving some of their income for league fixtures away to others. Take Dublin City, for example - they could probably have survived as a joke of a club by being a parasite off everyone else if we had that rule in Ireland for league games.

[kingdom hoop]

Oh I get it now !

It's not the fact that socialism has been an abject failure everywhere its been tried.

It's not that socialism is inherently unworkable because it pretends that certain fundamental aspects of human nature don't exist.

It's not the fact that those advocating socialism have completely and utterly failed to present a convincing case for why people should vote for or support their ideology.

The reason we don't have socialism is that people are just too darn stupid - sorry, misguided - to know what's good for them.

Right on brother. I suspect you've lurched so far to the left that you've gone full circle and popped out on the extreme right, with an attitude like that....

We can discuss such issues in context in the socialism or election threads. But anyway as I'm here

My gripe is with political democracy. I posted this back in January in the election thread. (excuse my not having found the shift key in my nascent foot.ie days)

"for a while now i have been thinking that political democracy should be confined to being the success of the 20th century but that the 21st century is time for a new revolt. president bush is the most obvious black sheep of democracy and perhaps global warming democracy's biggest catastrophe. politically i would align myself towards a meritocracy(a la singapore ). surely the most important organisation is the state and as such needs to be lead by capable people who are more than just your average bertie or george. at this stage in history the autocratic one man band is not going to re-emerge, so its now time to ditch political democracy and welcome a new era where we are guided by the best(most suitable) our society has to offer."

[BohsPartisan]

It's not the fact that socialism has been an abject failure everywhere its been tried.

It's not that socialism is inherently unworkable because it pretends that certain fundamental aspects of human nature don't exist.

It's not the fact that those advocating socialism have completely and utterly failed to present a convincing case for why people should vote for or support their ideology.

You've been told before Steve, theres a whole thread where myself, nightdub, sos and others presented a case so convincing for Socialism that our opponants had no comeback. If you do please present it in that thread.

[Lim till i die]

You've been told before Steve, theres a whole thread where myself, nightdub, sos and others presented a case so convincing for Socialism that our opponants had no comeback. If you do please present it in that thread.

Easy know it's election time

He's foaming at the mouth for a row