Who will win the play off?

**patsh** · 04/02/2003, 9:58 AM

Originally posted by @ndy
Bohs, Cork, Shels, UCD? Up the 4 team premier!!!

What a great division that would be...
3 progressive clubs trying to be professional and forward thinking, and then UCD..happy to survive each year.
Contrary to what you might think, I am not anti-UCD, but I do have to question the motives and future plans of the club.
How will UCD fare under the UEFA system?
CCFC, for instance are trying to get a full-time professional club setup in place. Bohs and $hels already have.
Will UCD be trying to do the same?
How are they funded ?(Does the college pay much of their bills?)

**UCD_4_Life** · 04/02/2003, 5:12 PM

Originally posted by oddboy
What a great division that would be...
3 progressive clubs trying to be professional and forward thinking, and then UCD..happy to survive each year.
Contrary to what you might think, I am not anti-UCD, but I do have to question the motives and future plans of the club.
How will UCD fare under the UEFA system?
CCFC, for instance are trying to get a full-time professional club setup in place. Bohs and $hels already have.
Will UCD be trying to do the same?
How are they funded ?(Does the college pay much of their bills?)

We're getting a new ground as far as I know.

I don't know about being professional because a good few of our players are on scholarships.

Just because we don't appear to be coming on doesn't matter, if we don't advance we'll go down eventually. As long as we can get the points to stay up we've as much a right to be here as anyone else.

**patsh** · 04/02/2003, 6:58 PM

Originally posted by UCD_4_Life
We're getting a new ground as far as I know.

I don't know about being professional because a good few of our players are on scholarships.

Just because we don't appear to be coming on doesn't matter, if we don't advance we'll go down eventually. As long as we can get the points to stay up we've as much a right to be here as anyone else.

I'm not denying UCDs right to be there.
But what is the ambition for UCD?
To survive every year?
If a few clubs go fully professional, surely the students cannot compete with that, so what will they do then?
Does the club have to pay for this new ground or does the money come from the tax-payers through the college?

**bigdteve** · 04/02/2003, 7:44 PM

think drogs r a banker bet to stay up.......but wud love to see galway win it...

lets break the cease fire in the north start shooting brits again....to fecking boring here now...........c'mon the city........super DERRY CITY...........

**UCD_4_Life** · 04/02/2003, 8:39 PM

But what is the ambition for UCD?
I'd like to see us push for Europe and if we ever manage to keep a team together for more than a season that's a possibility.

To survive every year?
Hopefully not just to survive.

If a few clubs go fully professional, surely the students cannot compete with that, so what will they do then?
We'll have to do the same or go down.

Does the club have to pay for this new ground or does the money come from the tax-payers through the college?
Not sure, Schumi or one of the others might know...

**JC_GUFC** · 05/02/2003, 10:02 AM

how come everyone thought Harps would beat us?

We'd beaten them 6-1 on aggregate in the league.

For tonight's final I don't really know - I've seen Drogs a few times and they were impressive but they're missing a few players and anyway if they'd played well all season they wouldn't have finished 9th.

If we can bring a 2-0 lead to United Park I think we'll go through, 1-0 or a draw could go either way but a Drogs win and they'll stay up.

Anyway 12 months ago I'd hardly have believed that we'd have been in this position, we were one of the worst teams in the country and now we're within 180 minutes of being in the elite 10!

C'mon United!

CU
JC

**patsh** · 05/02/2003, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by UCD_4_Life
But what is the ambition for UCD?
I'd like to see us push for Europe and if we ever manage to keep a team together for more than a season that's a possibility.

Thats my point. UCD are a team in constant flux and how can anything be built on such shifting foundations?

To survive every year?
Hopefully not just to survive.

Hopefully?...surely, given the above, survival is the main aim.

If a few clubs go fully professional, surely the students cannot compete with that, so what will they do then?
We'll have to do the same or go down.

How would UCD go professional?

Does the club have to pay for this new ground or does the money come from the tax-payers through the college?
Not sure, Schumi or one of the others might know...

I hardly think the soccer club would have to raise all or most of the necessary funds for a new ground, in the same way that other clubs would have to?

**sadloserkid** · 05/02/2003, 11:19 AM

Most new grounds are being bankrolled by the FAI and big name sponsorship rather than the clubs themselves. And UCD have a bigger sponsor than most.

**patsh** · 05/02/2003, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by sadloserkid
Most new grounds are being bankrolled by the FAI and big name sponsorship rather than the clubs themselves. And UCD have a bigger sponsor than most.

How do you explain Jackman Park so ??

**sadloserkid** · 05/02/2003, 11:34 AM

I don't have to. We're gone, never playing there again thank all that is pure and right. Granted we'll probably be moving someplace even worse but at least if/when we get a long-term lease we can think about development without the LDMC pirates spitting on the floor in front of or visitors from Derry. I mean I've been called scruffy in my time but jeez...

**UCD_4_Life** · 05/02/2003, 5:12 PM

Originally posted by oddboy
Thats my point. UCD are a team in constant flux and how can anything be built on such shifting foundations?

Hopefully?...surely, given the above, survival is the main aim.

How would UCD go professional?

I hardly think the soccer club would have to raise all or most of the necessary funds for a new ground, in the same way that other clubs would have to?

I was telling you what I'd like, how am I supposed to speak for UCD themselves?

Again how should I know how we're funding the ground/where we're getting the money from?

**patsh** · 05/02/2003, 6:40 PM

Originally posted by UCD_4_Life
I was telling you what I'd like, how am I supposed to speak for UCD themselves?

Again how should I know how we're funding the ground/where we're getting the money from?

Well I asked general questions about UCD, and you decided to answer them.
If you do not know anything, fair enough.

**UCD_4_Life** · 05/02/2003, 7:26 PM

Originally posted by oddboy
Well I asked general questions about UCD, and you decided to answer them.
If you do not know anything, fair enough.

I knew we were getting a new ground. So I know something.

Just because we've got a reasonably high turnover of players doesn't mean that our only ambition is to survive.

Also you have to admit they weren't really general questions: "If a few clubs go fully professional, surely the students cannot compete with that, so what will they do then?", I mean what am I psychic?

**patsh** · 06/02/2003, 9:25 AM

Originally posted by UCD_4_Life
Also you have to admit they weren't really general questions: "If a few clubs go fully professional, surely the students cannot compete with that, so what will they do then?", I mean what am I psychic?

No one asked you to be psychic or to be a spokesman for UCD.
If you don't know about anything except the ground, don't answer !
I asked some questions, you choose to answer them, so what's your problem ?

**Shed End John** · 06/02/2003, 3:12 PM

Originally posted by sadloserkid
I mean I've been called scruffy in my time but jeez...

Jesus, that would be filed under 'being extremely nice to Limerick', though I do tend to enjoy my couple of trips a year up there.

**sadloserkid** · 06/02/2003, 3:15 PM

We're not all '******s' John!

I tend to enjoy Cork too for what it's worth (especially league cup quarter finals!). Nah, seriously it's an alright place, better than say Sligo or Newbridge any day!

**Shed End John** · 06/02/2003, 3:20 PM

Originally posted by sadloserkid
We're not all '******s' John! I tend to enjoy Cork too for what it's worth (especially league cup quarter finals!). Nah, seriously it's an alright place, better than say Sligo or Newbridge any day!

Yeah, I don't think Limerick's all that bad. Heineken Cup games, beating the Brits by 4 trys and 27 points, you get the picture!!

**Shed End John** · 06/02/2003, 4:21 PM

Forgive me, but, I just HAVE to get this out of my system:
It's so nice to see I'm in danger of getting a prediction right for once. After Galways 2-0 win over Drogs last night, it's looking good for them to come up.

**RamblersWeb** · 08/02/2003, 7:28 PM

SATURDAY FEBRUARY 8
PROMOTION/RELEGATION PLAY-OFF, 2nd LEG
Drogheda Utd (0) 3-0 Galway Utd (2) AET
Myler Pen 60
O'Brien 68
O'Connor 105

Quinless s/off 102
Drogheda win 3-2 on aggregate and stay in the Premier Division

**Gary** · 08/02/2003, 7:38 PM

fecking disaster. really thought we would see the back of those money less cnuts.

Erra at least they will prob go next season.

Was looking forward to a few trips to Galway though!