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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Well if geysir's post is anything to go by, Wes should be free, so in reality he's overbidding by a full 750k.
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    We're hearing reports that Wigan Athletic striker Grant Holt will have a medical at Aston Villa on Tuesday ahead of a loan move to the Premier League club. Holt only joined Wigan last summer from Norwich City and he played under Villa boss Paul Lambert at Carrow Road.

    http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/

    Could Wes be reuniting with Holt at Villa? They went together like peanut butter and jelly at Norwich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    We're hearing reports that Wigan Athletic striker Grant Holt will have a medical at Aston Villa on Tuesday ahead of a loan move to the Premier League club. Holt only joined Wigan last summer from Norwich City and he played under Villa boss Paul Lambert at Carrow Road.

    http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/

    Could Wes be reuniting with Holt at Villa? They went together like peanut butter and jelly at Norwich.


    Re-uniting on the bench maybe.......cant see a 32 yr old Holt getting much game time ahead of a fit Benteke and Agbonlahor
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    Hoolahan has got to try and force a move through or hope to God that that cowboy Hughton gets sacked very soon. Tettey, Howson and Pilkington out injured and he can't even get off the bench. It's a shocking way to treat someone who has served the club so well, even in recent games against Palace and Man Utd.

    He has no future at Norwich under the present regime. The reason he'll end up staying is because Hughton doesn't want to rock the boat with the fans any more than he already has and because of some petty rivalry between the clubs at board level after Lambert's acrimonious exit.

    They can't haggle on price. The lad turns 32 in the summer, has been barely used all season and they paid frig all for him to begin with.

    For God's sake let Wes go. He deserves to be playing football at this level for the next two years after helping Norwich to successive promotions and nailing down PL status. He ain't going to be getting it under Hughton at Norwich.
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    There was a big love in here over the last few years between foot.ie and Hughton. I was always sceptical - since the Kerr days when I felt he was too compliant and sedate - but changed my mind a fair bit after some great Norwich performances last season. Now I'm firmly backing my original opinion. I just don't see anything in him other than a thoroughly decent bloke with a decent degree of coaching ability. Being nice doesn't get results (nor is it a criticism) nor does only being a decent coach.

    Cue a super run of form for Norwich!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Hoolahan has got to try and force a move through or hope to God that that cowboy Hughton gets sacked very soon.
    Considering the length of time he spent at spurs and the high number of different spurs managers that kept him as a coach - i would think that there are quite alot of people in the game who think Hughton is anything but a cowboy.

    Also considering he got Newcastle back to the premier league and is generally believed to have stabilised their very shaky regime at St James Park prior to his ludicrous dismissal by Mike Ashley along with getting the mess that was Birmingham City to the playoffs in the championship before keeping Norwich in the premiership last season, I fail to see how you came to the conclusion that Chris is a "Cowboy"
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Hoolahan has got to try and force a move through or hope to God that that cowboy Hughton gets sacked very soon. Tettey, Howson and Pilkington out injured and he can't even get off the bench. It's a shocking way to treat someone who has served the club so well, even in recent games against Palace and Man Utd.

    He has no future at Norwich under the present regime. The reason he'll end up staying is because Hughton doesn't want to rock the boat with the fans any more than he already has and because of some petty rivalry between the clubs at board level after Lambert's acrimonious exit.

    They can't haggle on price. The lad turns 32 in the summer, has been barely used all season and they paid frig all for him to begin with.

    For God's sake let Wes go. He deserves to be playing football at this level for the next two years after helping Norwich to successive promotions and nailing down PL status. He ain't going to be getting it under Hughton at Norwich.
    I would not read anything into the team selection for a cup match for a team in Norwich's position, ie hovering above
    the relegation zone. A lot of managers would have selected their second string so being left out is not a bad thing.
    However Hughton seems to have played close to his first team, so that does not seem to be the case.
    But they were defeated 3-0, unflattering for those involved, perhaps.


    Not too sure what to make of things really so will just have to see how thing pan out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    I would not read anything into the team selection for a cup match for a team in Norwich's position, ie hovering above
    the relegation zone. A lot of managers would have selected their second string so being left out is not a bad thing.
    However Hughton seems to have played close to his first team, so that does not seem to be the case.
    But they were defeated 3-0, unflattering for those involved, perhaps.


    Not too sure what to make of things really so will just have to see how thing pan out.
    Both teams played their FA cup selection.
    About 9 changes for Norwich from their standard EPL starting X1

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    Wes has been out of the team all season and the only reason he got a run recently is because several midfielders were out injured and/or suspended. Norwich were a far better side and getting far better results with Wes in the side last season but disappointingly Hughton seems to want to make his own stamp on the team regardless of results and lack of creativity, even if it means getting the team relegated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Wes has been out of the team all season and the only reason he got a run recently is because several midfielders were out injured and/or suspended. Norwich were a far better side and getting far better results with Wes in the side last season but disappointingly Hughton seems to want to make his own stamp on the team regardless of results and lack of creativity, even if it means getting the team relegated.
    And because Hughton wants to make his own stamp on his Norwich team (not the one that Lambert got promoted) , that makes him a cowboy?
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    If his pride is getting in the way of common sense, then yes it does make him a cowboy.

    Elmander is dross, Van Wolfswinkel and Hooper have struggled all season and Snodgrass is seemingly undroppable.

    They are probably the least creative team in the League. Hughton has some cheek marginalising Hoolahan like this after he saved his job.

    To think that he was left out of the squad altogether a couple of times this season. That is just disgraceful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    If his pride is getting in the way of common sense, then yes it does make him a cowboy.

    Elmander is dross, Van Wolfswinkel and Hooper have struggled all season and Snodgrass is seemingly undroppable.

    They are probably the least creative team in the League. Hughton has some cheek marginalising Hoolahan like this after he saved his job.

    To think that he was left out of the squad altogether a couple of times this season. That is just disgraceful.
    Snodgrass is undroppable because he creates more chances than the rest of the squad - 36 according to this: http://www.football365.com/f365-feat...bers-And-Stats... - and more accurate crosses per game than any player in the Premier League - 2.7, from the same article - Norwich's problems lie elsewhere on the pitch
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    I can't understand why he Hoolahan doesn't start either but why would it have anything to do with Hughton's pride? He was a regular last season and he was dropped long before any of the recent Villa links.

    Very harsh on Hooper. He has done as well as any forward playing for a bottom half side, better than the vast majority in fact. RVW hasn't hit the ground running but has had his injury troubles. If Benteke started his career at Villa the way he has played in the last few months he wouldn't be rated very highly either. Sometimes players take time to settle or just have a lean spell. Snodgrass being dropped would probably be just as mystifying as Hoolahan's exclusion given he's also been one of Norwich's best players over the last year or so.

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    Hoolahan has more assists than Snodgrass this season and he's only started half-a-dozen games.

    There just seems to be a complete reticence to rotate in any way, shape or form and use Hoolahan, the same way there is a stubborn refusal to drop Snodgrass who has particularly struggled over the last several games. I just find it bizarre.

    They got an impressive result against Everton on the opening day of the season with Hoolahan in the team and then he is completely marginalised, despite Van Wolfswinkel, Elmander, their other midfielders (and until recently) Hooper failing to score or make decent chances.

    Hoolahan comes back and puts one on a plate for Hooper in his first game back - helping Hooper's confidence no end and is one of the best players on the park against Man Utd, yet it's back to square one.

    Just frustrating how they won't let him go to Villa when it's blatantly obvious that he is unwanted by the manager and if they get 1 mil for him they should count themselves lucky. Why would a team offer any more for a player his age who has been completely pushed aside and made to look like a squad player?

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    Marginalising Wes in the team is very questionable,
    but dropping Snodgrass would be insane, Hughton would end up as filler in one of Delia's pies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Both teams played their FA cup selection.
    About 9 changes for Norwich from their standard EPL starting X1
    Ah OK second massive blunder of the week from me them (match of the day think being the first).

    I compared the team to their last match to see what changes there were, the penny has only just dropped
    that too was an FA cup match, I do remember it being against Fulham too, which should have set alarm bells
    in my head but didn't.

    So, knowing that his non selection can be seen as positive?

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    FA cup 11

    • 13 Bunn
    • 03 Whittaker
    • 18 Garrido
    • 04 Johnson
    • 02 Martin
    • 05 Bassong Nguena
    • 22 Redmond (van Wolfswinkel - 45' )
    • 25 Fox
    • 16 Elmander (Becchio - 68' )
    • 07 Snodgrass
    • 31 Murphy

    League 11

    • 01 Ruddy *
    • 03 Whittaker
    • 23 Olsson *
    • 10 Fer *
    • 24 R Bennett Booked *
    • 05 Bassong Nguena Booked
    • 07 Snodgrass
    • 04 Johnson
    • 11 Hooper *
    • 09 van Wolfswinkel (Murphy - 88' )
    • 18 Garrido (Redmond - 66' )




    OK so there is my point the *'ed players didn't play in the FA cup, does that mean they are out of favour?

    You can't draw a negative conclusion from Wes being left out of the FA cup starting 11,
    you can argue he is being saved for the 'big games'

    But we will have to wit and see as we don't have enough info to draw a conclusion yet.
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