Second Album Syndrome

**BohsPartisan** · 18/04/2007, 3:41 PM

Originally Posted by Neish

Agree 100% as all Ash albums and songs are sh*t

Apart from their cover of the Mos Eisley Cantina Band's tune (Star Wars ANH) on the B Side of Girl from Mars.

**gustavo** · 18/04/2007, 3:46 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

Apart from their cover of the Mos Eisley Cantina Band's tune (Star Wars ANH) on the B Side of Girl from Mars.

and Girl from Mars , Goldfinger , Oh Yeah , Jesus Says , Uncle Pat , Sometimes , Burn Baby Burn , There's a Star , Angel Interceptor.

**Risteard** · 18/04/2007, 4:08 PM

Astral Conversations with Toulouse Lautrec?

**Neish** · 18/04/2007, 8:00 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Jeff Buckley - Sketches for my Sweetheart the Drunk

I know it wasn't totally finished, but the lyrics weren't up to much, and considering the album was entering its final stages when Jeff went swimming I'll go out on a limb here and say it was going to be a stinker

Not a bad album IMO. Some very good songs on it Nightmares by the Sea, Everbody here wants you and New year's prayer a just a few. Have it lent to a mate now for ages so I havn't heard it in a long time.

Granted its no Grace, but then again it wasn't meant to be. Buckley wanted to do as monty python would say "And now for something completely different"

**tetsujin1979** · 18/04/2007, 8:08 PM

Originally Posted by gustavo

and Girl from Mars , Goldfinger , Oh Yeah , Jesus Says , Uncle Pat , Sometimes , Burn Baby Burn , There's a Star , Angel Interceptor.

Don't forget the official song of the Jackie Chan fan club - Kung Fu!

**SligoBrewer** · 18/04/2007, 8:18 PM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Franz Ferdinand- You Could Have It So Much Better
The Thrills- Let's Bottle Bohemia

I love that Franz Ferdinand album.Brilliant imo.

**ken foree** · 19/04/2007, 2:32 PM

Originally Posted by citizenerased

BRMC - cant remember title

i think it's called Howl? i nominate u2's october

**Marked Man** · 19/04/2007, 2:36 PM

Originally Posted by PAURO 7

W
Leftfield - Rythm and Stealth
Leftism was a groundbreaking classic, this just trailed in its wake.

Disagree. R&S is an absolute classic of an album. Better even than their debut (which I agree is excellent).

I think BRMC's 2nd isn't bad at all; on a par with their first, and fcuking miles ahead of Howl (which is what I felt like doing after paying for that album).

**Pauro 76** · 19/04/2007, 2:49 PM

Originally Posted by Marked Man

Disagree. R&S is an absolute classic of an album. Better even than their debut (which I agree is excellent).

R&S definitely had its fair share of great moments I agree. Phat Planet is definitely their best song, full stop. But both El Cid and Rino's Prayer spoiled it for me.... whatever happened them?

**Beavis** · 19/04/2007, 3:13 PM

Originally Posted by noby

As a stand-alone album I'm sure it is good, but I didn't get into the Stone Roses first day because of my love of Led Zep-inspired blues rock (or whatever category it is). Now I realise there were other issues going on, but when a band takes so long to release a follow up, which then underwhelms me, I think it counts. IMO, obviously.
I'm not saying I wanted a re-hash of the debut, but while I bought the album, and listen to it occasionally, in my heart I know that if it wasn't the Stone Roses this album woud have completly passed me by.

There's no doubting Squire's guitar playing, but they missed the likes of Leckie, who reeled him in somewhat for the recording of the debut.

Have to agree there, the second one is still JS genuis but not as in line with my taste, as the first. The first revolutionised modern music and there is inevitable let down after a debut like that, but still the songs are nowhere near as endearing. That said Tears is probably my favourite Roses song, Daybreak is a classic and it probably shouldnt be included in the second album syndrome because it is still quality.

**BohsPartisan** · 19/04/2007, 3:14 PM

Yeah Daybreak is a classic track, I also like Begging You and remember wishing more of the album was like that.

**Pauro 76** · 19/04/2007, 3:24 PM

I actually listen to the Second Coming more than the debut. Can't argue with the quality of 'Tears', like many my favourite Stone Roses song. People argue with the over the top guitar work. What's wrong with that? That's what makes the album. The intro to Breaking into Heaven must have completely bamboozled music reviewers at the time! 8 minutes of tribal drums! genius!

**noby** · 19/04/2007, 3:32 PM

Bamboozle? I'm not so sure.
Over-the-top guitar work isn't really my thing, you see. There was just enough on the debut, but he seems to have been given a free reign on the second, and didn't know when to stop at times.

In saying that, I now have a Second Coming earworm, so I'm going to go home now and play it loud.

**Pauro 76** · 19/04/2007, 3:43 PM

That said a few stinkers on Second Coming. 'Straight to the Man' is quite awful. And 'How Do You Sleep' is filler imo. The great thing is, would Arctic Monkeys have the balls to start off a second album with a 8 minute tribal drum beat? I think not! Its the tender moments on Second Coming that stand out for me. Your Star will Shine and Tightrope would grace any album.

**ken foree** · 19/04/2007, 4:31 PM

Originally Posted by Marked Man

I think BRMC's 2nd isn't bad at all; on a par with their first, and fcuking miles ahead of Howl (which is what I felt like doing after paying for that album).

ah-ha, thanks for the correction.

**gilberto_eire** · 19/04/2007, 5:10 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

This maybe controversial but I'd add Oasis - Whats the story morning glory Poor compared to DM.
Manic Street Preachers - Gold Against the Soul Some great songs on it but a few duds and not a patch on what went before or came next.
The Beatles - With The Beatles IMO their second poorest offering after Beatles for Sale.

''whats the story morning glory'' doesnt deserve to be there look at the tracks it had on it.... every song was playable tosay the least you need you head examined

**ken foree** · 19/04/2007, 7:51 PM

Originally Posted by gilberto_eire

''whats the story morning glory'' doesnt deserve to be there look at the tracks it had on it.... every song was playable tosay the least you need you head examined

steady on. take your time posting otherwise you'll end up making no sense. i agree with him, it's not a patch on the record before it. no ballady bunk like wonderwall. difference of a pinion like

**BohsPartisan** · 19/04/2007, 9:53 PM

Originally Posted by gilberto_eire

''whats the story morning glory'' doesnt deserve to be there look at the tracks it had on it.... every song was playable tosay the least you need you head examined

Knew it would be controversial. All I can say is that when Whats the story came out, bearing in mind I was big into them at the time and all my mates were too, we were all very dissapointed by the end product. Yeah some good songs but over all not a patch on DM.

**Neish** · 20/04/2007, 8:19 AM

Originally Posted by ken foree

Originally Posted by citizenerased

BRMC - cant remember title

i think it's called Howl? i nominate u2's october

Nope, Howl is there 3rd album, 2nd is called Take them on, on your own. And marked man Howl is a class album

**gustavo** · 20/04/2007, 8:51 AM

Originally Posted by ken foree

steady on. take your time posting otherwise you'll end up making no sense. i agree with him, it's not a patch on the record before it. no ballady bunk like wonderwall. difference of a pinion like

Slide Away is a ballad pretty much just with added guitars.