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**dcfcsteve** · 20/04/2007, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by charliesboots

Absolutely and I'm not saying otherwise.

I originally just wanted to point out why some of the investors may have invested before Steve went off on one.

You raised their involevement in a negative/cynical manner.

I see nothing negative about the involvement of property developers in a football club, when they want to develop derelict land adjacent to the stadium. Why the need to frame that in negative/cynical terms...?

**charliesboots** · 20/04/2007, 8:51 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

You raised their involevement in a negative/cynical manner.

I see nothing negative about the involvement of property developers in a football club, when they want to develop derelict land adjacent to the stadium. Why the need to frame that in negative/cynical terms...?

How so?

I wa merely pointing out that the consortium didn't invest as they were Niall's buddies and he has an undying love of the club.

Changing the goalposts a little Steve after being shown up?

**dcfcsteve** · 20/04/2007, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by charliesboots

How so?

I wa merely pointing out that the consortium didn't invest as they were Niall's buddies and he has an undying love of the club.

Changing the goalposts a little Steve after being shown up?

Given your track record of cynicism, I think I could be forgiven for suspecting it again when you make such a post....

**pete** · 20/04/2007, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Wouldn't charging as much as you can alienate the real fans?

Slightly different situation when we had Celtic match a few seasons ago & the visitors were charging large fee to play so prices were hiked up & majority of attendees were Celtic fans.

Real fans will skip friendlies & let barstoolers play over the odds as its cheaper than flying to the UK to see their heros.

**NY Hoop** · 20/04/2007, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Boh_So_Good

You have to bear in mind that the reason why soccer clubs in places such as Sunderland, Sheffield, Blackburn, etc get huge crowds to games is because these cities are provincial dreary ****holes and the local football club is often all there is to do.

Now compare that with Dublin which is a major European capital city, extremely wealthy and the citizens have at their feet world class cultural, entertainment, recreational opertunities and earn the kind of salaries which would be way above what the average person in Sunderland would even dream about and Dubliners can hop of a RyanAir flight at Dublin Airport and spend it anywhere in Europe.

If you live in a depressing cold regional UK city were the height of local culture is either attending a BNP rally or having a chip butty, then your local soccer club would be a huge draw compare to what little else in on offer locally.

I am not trolling, this is how it is. Have you ever been to Sunderland! Makes Limerick City look like Barcelona.

LMAO!

KOH

**NY Hoop** · 20/04/2007, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by pete

I have never liked friendlies.

City v Sunderland is being run by the MFA and revenue used to pay for new turnstiles. Ticket prices will not be increased if at all.

For CCFC friendlies we should charge as much as can get away with fleece the barstoolers as only opportunity to get money off them. I don't think people attending a friendly have any interest in the LOI side & few if any will ever even think of returning until next big name friendly.

Spot on. Fleece the barstoolers they wouldnt know the difference anyway. Know a Galway fan who is not going on August 1 cos of them.

KOH

**charliesboots** · 20/04/2007, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Given your track record of cynicism, I think I could be forgiven for suspecting it again when you make such a post....

WTF are you talking about my "track record for cynicism"? Steve you jumped to a conclusion (while claiming I was making assumptions) and got it wrong, simple as.

**Raheny Red** · 20/04/2007, 12:45 PM

We played Sunderland last summer before the band wagon gathered pace and there was a poor crowd at the game. Should be a completely different story this round

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ht5GnEQbun8

**BohDiddley** · 20/04/2007, 6:39 PM

There seems to be a reaction from those who might crudely be called 'pro Sunderland/English football' that it is cynical and negative to question the activities of the Quinn consortium and SAFC. I think some might choose to deliberately misunderstand, the better to label all eL supporters as bitter malcontents, but it could also be that there is a genuine misinterpretation here.
There is no reason for even the most diehard eL fan to have any problem with Sunderland, or with Niall Quinn, or with Sunderland supporters insofar as their activities relate to England. In fact, if they do make it back to the EPL, it will have been an amazing achievement, and club and fans alike should be congratulated.
What is problematic is Quinn's trying to have it both ways, running a sustained and deliberate marketing campaign aimed at drawing badly-needed resources out of Irish football, at a time when the game here is trying to recover from decades of damage, and at the same time attempting to retain credibility as a champion of the domestic game, taking out show-membership in SRFC and calling for more investment in Irish football.
The sports media here have long bought into the EPL, and aren't going to question the SundIreland circus. But it is perfectly valid for people who care about the game here to question Quinn's motivation. Lots of people invest in British football. But they don't ask eL fans to like them at the same time.
As for Bohs having a friendly with Sunderland, and the invitation to comment on that, I can see no contradiction. Sunderland and their fans obviously are more than welcome, and I'm sure the club appreciates the boost in profile that they will bring. The bizarre part is that, if Quinn and co. succeed in turning their club into a mini-Celtic/L'pool/ManU, there could be more English shirt-wearing Irish fans there than either Bohs or genuine Sunderland supporters. And that's just daft.
Imagine a Sunderland friendly with Real Madrid, with more white shirts in evidence, and the Real-lovers telling all and sundry that the Spanish game is vastly superior and dismissing the home support as weirdos. From my knowledge of Sunderland folk, who seem honest, straight-talking, and with little time for bull****, somehow I don't think that'd wash over there.

**BohsPartisan** · 21/04/2007, 9:01 AM

I don't normally post things like "Excellent Post" but that was an excellent post.

**sonofstan** · 21/04/2007, 9:20 AM

Seconded on BD's post- and Sunderland is a grand place. The idea that Dublin is Paris/ Amsterdam and Barcelona rolled into one and northern English towns are all straight out of Saturday Night/ Sunday Morning is daft. Nothing declares us as still provincial quite so much as our insistence that we're not provincial.

**BohsPartisan** · 21/04/2007, 9:35 AM

Plus BSG is just wumming which is all he comes on here for.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 21/04/2007, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Wouldn't charging as much as you can alienate the real fans?

Let anyone with season ticket in at the normal price and charge higher for the rest.

**GavinZac** · 21/04/2007, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

We played Sunderland last summer before the band wagon gathered pace and there was a poor crowd at the game. Should be a completely different story this round

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ht5GnEQbun8

You played them a good few years ago aswell. Tony Cotton, ex Man Utd was there. Thats pretty much my only lasting memory of the game.

**Demoshield** · 21/04/2007, 2:00 PM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Let anyone with season ticket in at the normal price and charge higher for the rest.

GUFC season ticket always covers all friendlies but St.Niall has decided that if our season ticket holders get in free he wants 1000 free tickets for Sunderland season ticket holders. Sunderland are being paid to play in Galway, this does not give Quinn the right to tell GUFC how to run the club.Should be told to F_ _k off!

**Conor H** · 21/04/2007, 7:29 PM

Why?

GUFC are well aware of what they're doing here.

As said in this thread this game is the perfect oppurtunity to fleece the barstoolers which is exactly what UTD are doing.

Sunderland are bringing a 1000 fans.The game is on Race week....therefore half the Country will be in Galway as it is.
I'll be at the game but more than likely selling UTD gear,Lotto Tickets and GUST membership.The spill over effects from this game for UTD are huge.
Also TC will be able to spend now in July.

**dcfcsteve** · 22/04/2007, 1:00 AM

Originally Posted by charliesboots

WTF are you talking about my "track record for cynicism"? Steve you jumped to a conclusion (while claiming I was making assumptions) and got it wrong, simple as.

Yes I got it wrong. Yes you have a track record of cynicism. Yes, the former was influenced by the latter.

**dcfcsteve** · 22/04/2007, 1:03 AM

Originally Posted by sonofstan

Seconded on BD's post- and Sunderland is a grand place. The idea that Dublin is Paris/ Amsterdam and Barcelona rolled into one and northern English towns are all straight out of Saturday Night/ Sunday Morning is daft. Nothing declares us as still provincial quite so much as our insistence that we're not provincial.

Dublin ain't Barcelona. But Sunderland ain't a grand place either to be fair.

It's just alright. There's not much to see or do there, and the nightlife is poor and unvaried in my opinion. You certainly wouldn't go there for a weekend, and I suspect that any SundIreland fans who travel over regularly would spend more of any weekend in Newcastle than on Wear-side. It's only a small step above Middlesborough, which is certainly no accolade.

Regardless BSG is still a WUM.