Irish UK Club Football Bangwagon Jumpers -Irish Footballs Number 1 enemy

reder · 22/04/2007, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Conor H

Tickets can only be purchased at Terryland.

They'll be on sale at a less attractive game like UCD AFAIK.

Exactly the way to do it. Also charging people �30 per ticket is not fleecing them. You pay �70+ for tickets to a gig.

Btw, this thread completely contradicts whats posted in the thread about Quinn attracting irish fans to Sunderland.

**osarusan** · 23/04/2007, 2:07 AM

Originally Posted by Boh_So_Good

Has everybody also forgotten that Sunderland are managed by a traitor?

He deserves no respect from any Irish soccer person.

There is no other country in the world were the top player throws a girlie hissy-fit and walks out on the team and the nation on the eve of the World Cup finals and is forgiven. Only in Ireland! I will never forget being at the last Switzerland match with Mick McCarthy and all these retards chanting "KEANO" when we were 1-0 down and they were not all Irish Man U primates "supporting" Ireland either. Shocking.

This is such a screwball country when it comes to soccer. Mick McCarthy is more of an Irishman than Keano will ever be.

I will welcome Sunderland supporters to Dalymount, but not Keane. That drama queen is not welcome in "home of Irish football". Keane's very presence is an insult to the hundreds of Irish footballers who wore the green jersey in that stadium for almost 100 years and played their hearts out for their country because they were honoured to do so. Many of them were delighted to do it for almost nothing and in most cases not a hope in hell of ever qualifying for a major competition. The Saipan Drama Queen standing on the grass at Dalymount is repulsive to me as I know what a real Irish footballer is like and he ain't it.

Call me what you will, but I shall be chanting "KEANO IS A TRAITOR!" at the top of my lungs for 90 mins.

Another literary classic from Bohs so Good. Off-topic, rambling, and of course, nonsense.

I am an Irish football person, and I respect him. Not for everything, but he deserves respect.

He is far more Irish then Mick McCarthy, in any way you want to propose are criterion.

What is a "real Irish footballer" is your opinion?

**BohDiddley** · 23/04/2007, 8:04 AM

Originally Posted by osarusan

What is a "real Irish footballer" is your opinion?

Kevin Hunt

reder · 23/04/2007, 9:31 AM

Originally Posted by osarusan

He is far more Irish then Mick McCarthy, in any way you want to propose are criterion.

Can you expand on this please. I would love to know what makes him "more Irish" than Mc Carthy.

**R�iteoir** · 23/04/2007, 9:37 AM

Originally Posted by reder

Can you expand on this please. I would love to know what makes him "more Irish" than Mc Carthy.

I wouldn't go down this path to be perfectly honest - it'll result in nothing but trouble, thread lockings and cardings.

Mark my words...

**R�iteoir** · 23/04/2007, 10:47 AM

OK - this is being reopened after I've sifted out all the rubbish.

One person has already got a 7 day binning on the back of this - and another is probably gonna get carded too.

Don't say we didn't warn you...

**jebus** · 23/04/2007, 12:36 PM

Last word from me on this, unless you were born here, or were moved here before you could fully formulate memories you are not Irish.

Connolly's a tough one, considering he was born to Irish parents, and lived in an Irish district, but I'd still call him Scottish

Dev I'd consider to be Irish since he was only three (I think) when he was moved here

McCarthy isn't Irish, he was a good player for Ireland but he's as much Irish as Gazza is.

Lets not start this Little Ireland ******** here again though, I'm only saying what I think qualifies you to be 'Irish' (whatever that means), this has nothing to do with Saipan, Roy Keane or anything else

**R�iteoir** · 23/04/2007, 12:41 PM

OK - that's the last word on that particular facet.

Now - back to the football...

**stampp** · 23/04/2007, 2:01 PM

Originally Posted by reder

Btw, this thread completely contradicts whats posted in the thread about Quinn attracting irish fans to Sunderland.

How's that?

**kdjaC** · 23/04/2007, 6:17 PM

Originally Posted by stampp

How's that?

Think we meant to hate Sunderland or Quinn, not sure when the revolution is but.

We played Sunderland in mid 90s, mental session went to a game over there with some of the fans we met, cracking night both times. But now i hate them

kdjac

**kingdom hoop** · 25/04/2007, 9:39 AM

I was, as you can imagine, pretty amazed when I saw the following on my college e-noticeboard;

Sunderland FC Survey

My name is Derek Angove. I am a full time MBA student at the Michael Smurfit School of Business and I am currently engaged in a brand equity study for the Sunderland Football Club. As part of my research I am conducting a survey that seeks to discover the Irish sentiment towards Sunderland and English Football in general. I hope that you will be willing to spend a few minutes to participate in the survey. Participation in the survey is voluntary and you will not be identified in any reports on this study.

I know your time is valuable, so as a token of Sunderland's appreciation (and mine), a team autographed Sunderland home jersey, as well as, 4 tickets to Sunderland's season home opener (happening later this year) will be given away on May 21, 2007 to one of the participants of the survey. A random email address will be picked as the winner.

The link to the survey is http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=966673678364

Thanks again for your time. I hope you find the survey interesting.

Best regards,

Derek Angove

Pretty funny eh. The survey itself is very entertaining alright. For example there's a question '24. Would you like to see Sunderland have a bigger presence in Ireland?' !! Is there no end to the onslaught?

**hoops1** · 25/04/2007, 9:44 AM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

There seems to be a reaction from those who might crudely be called 'pro Sunderland/English football' that it is cynical and negative to question the activities of the Quinn consortium and SAFC. I think some might choose to deliberately misunderstand, the better to label all eL supporters as bitter malcontents, but it could also be that there is a genuine misinterpretation here.
There is no reason for even the most diehard eL fan to have any problem with Sunderland, or with Niall Quinn, or with Sunderland supporters insofar as their activities relate to England. In fact, if they do make it back to the EPL, it will have been an amazing achievement, and club and fans alike should be congratulated.
What is problematic is Quinn's trying to have it both ways, running a sustained and deliberate marketing campaign aimed at drawing badly-needed resources out of Irish football, at a time when the game here is trying to recover from decades of damage, and at the same time attempting to retain credibility as a champion of the domestic game, taking out show-membership in SRFC and calling for more investment in Irish football.
The sports media here have long bought into the EPL, and aren't going to question the SundIreland circus. But it is perfectly valid for people who care about the game here to question Quinn's motivation. Lots of people invest in British football. But they don't ask eL fans to like them at the same time.
As for Bohs having a friendly with Sunderland, and the invitation to comment on that, I can see no contradiction. Sunderland and their fans obviously are more than welcome, and I'm sure the club appreciates the boost in profile that they will bring. The bizarre part is that, if Quinn and co. succeed in turning their club into a mini-Celtic/L'pool/ManU, there could be more English shirt-wearing Irish fans there than either Bohs or genuine Sunderland supporters. And that's just daft.
Imagine a Sunderland friendly with Real Madrid, with more white shirts in evidence, and the Real-lovers telling all and sundry that the Spanish game is vastly superior and dismissing the home support as weirdos. From my knowledge of Sunderland folk, who seem honest, straight-talking, and with little time for bull****, somehow I don't think that'd wash over there.

Sorry for quoting a whole post but that is POTM

**dcfcsteve** · 25/04/2007, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by kingdom hoop

I was, as you can imagine, pretty amazed when I saw the following on my college e-noticeboard;

Sunderland FC Survey

My name is Derek Angove. I am a full time MBA student at the Michael Smurfit School of Business and I am currently engaged in a brand equity study for the Sunderland Football Club. As part of my research I am conducting a survey that seeks to discover the Irish sentiment towards Sunderland and English Football in general. I hope that you will be willing to spend a few minutes to participate in the survey. Participation in the survey is voluntary and you will not be identified in any reports on this study.

I know your time is valuable, so as a token of Sunderland's appreciation (and mine), a team autographed Sunderland home jersey, as well as, 4 tickets to Sunderland's season home opener (happening later this year) will be given away on May 21, 2007 to one of the participants of the survey. A random email address will be picked as the winner.

The link to the survey is http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=966673678364

Thanks again for your time. I hope you find the survey interesting.

Best regards,

Derek Angove

Pretty funny eh. The survey itself is very entertaining alright. For example there's a question '24. Would you like to see Sunderland have a bigger presence in Ireland?' !! Is there no end to the onslaught?

Not the best survey I've seen - a few leading questions there, and doesn't filter you out at the start if you're fundamentally not interested in Sunderland or English football.

I filled it in anyway.....

**dcfcsteve** · 25/04/2007, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Conor H

Why?

GUFC are well aware of what they're doing here.

As said in this thread this game is the perfect oppurtunity to fleece the barstoolers which is exactly what UTD are doing.

Sunderland are bringing a 1000 fans.The game is on Race week....therefore half the Country will be in Galway as it is.
I'll be at the game but more than likely selling UTD gear,Lotto Tickets and GUST membership.The spill over effects from this game for UTD are huge.
Also TC will be able to spend now in July.

I suspect that Sunderland's games in Ireland will do much more for them financially beyond the immediate term than it will for the clubs they're playing.

Even in the immediate term - they'll shift dramatically more shirts in advance and immediately after each game than the teams they play would probably
shift in a year.

I don't have a problem with such friendlies, but it would be naive to assume they put more money into Irish football than they attract away to English football. I seriously suspect the opposite is true.

**Sumac** · 25/04/2007, 11:10 AM

Does anyone know how much Sunderland are charging clubs for the benefit of their presence? All I have heard is that it is a hefty appearance fee. Is this charge common for all clubs on their pre-season tours?

**BohsPartisan** · 25/04/2007, 11:11 AM

I heard it was a share of the gate but I'm not sure.

**galwayhoop** · 25/04/2007, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Sumac

Does anyone know how much Sunderland are charging clubs for the benefit of their presence? All I have heard is that it is a hefty appearance fee. Is this charge common for all clubs on their pre-season tours?

..yes

**Calcio Jack** · 25/04/2007, 11:15 AM

Anyone slagging of or complaining about Quinn trying to entice people resident in the ROI to support Sunderland by travelling to their games or buy their merchandise might stop and think for amoment. We live in a democracy which affords us certain rights e.g the right to travel overseas freely and also the right to purchase goods from overseas...simple but good example is the buying of a CD for a much cheaper price from an entity like CDWow as against being fleeced by your local high street record store....

My point is you can't have it both ways...so if you want the freedoms mentioned above then you have to accept that we have an open economy and thus foreign companies are entitled to advertise and sell their goods here and it is up to any local operator that produces a similar good or service to compete... so that's life and it's up to the LOI to compete with Sunderland or any other overseas clubs.