Bohemians "Fans"

**LeixlipRed** · 01/04/2007, 7:39 PM

Originally Posted by LukeO

7.45 as usual. You're not invited.

Nice one. So your little runts will have plenty of time to leg it to Tolka to meet our little ****es on the way out. Brilliant

**Raheny Red** · 01/04/2007, 7:42 PM

Originally Posted by LukeO

7.45 as usual. You're not invited.

Was just wondering because in the today's Star above this Friday's eL fixtures it reads 3pm unless stated - and the only games that were stated were: Shels (8.00), Mons (8.00), and Bray (5.00).

**ashbournebohs** · 01/04/2007, 8:50 PM

Originally Posted by LeixlipRed

Yes, hitting children is the answer. Beat them into submission. sure aren't they only running amok because they weren't strictly disciplined as young children

Go have a look inside St Patricks Institution on the north Circular rd and have a look at what the 16 and 17 yr old children are responsible for.Murder rape assualt torture kidnapping you name it and believe me im not exagerating.The ****es that are causing trouble at the games are a rung below them on the ladder of scumbag behaviour and a slap in the absence of a noose will do just fine.To anyone thinking of issuing same slaps just make sure its hard enough to paralyse the parasites

**osarusan** · 02/04/2007, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by iceman

He was about 22-25 and "squaring up to" and poking at a pensioner , tyring to provoke him and yes I did give him a few slaps on the neck and sent him on his way , I am in my 40's and was not going to stand aside to watch one of our senior citizens treated in this manner. I also reported it to the first Garda that I came across , not that that did any good either.

Well in that case............

Your use of the words "little sh!ts" gave me the impression he was 13 or 14 or so, in his 20's is a different story. Still think there are always alternatives to a few slaps, but to a 22 year-old, my objections are more muted.

**Peadar** · 02/04/2007, 10:33 AM

There's a Blacksmith in Ballyfermot doing an Easter Special for Moral High Horses. Fair few members, on this forum, must have the shoes worn off theirs, after this weekend.

Hands up which club hasn't had an unsavory element, in their support, at one point or another? Prosecution is the only answer, but to achieve that, clubs need to work together in order to compile solid evidence. Decent CCTV systems and professional stewarding.

**jebus** · 02/04/2007, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

Thats what I was told and I believe it to be true as I did a postgrad diploma in journalism and they told us that there too. Did your lot get legal advise on this? If so and it ok please let me know and I'll bring it up at our forthcoming AGM.

I'm doing a photography course at the moment and as far as I'm aware as long as the person is over 16, and is at a public event (such as a football match) it is okay to use their image, as long as they don't request that you don't use the image, or that you don't publically mis-use it so to speak (i.e. putting a person's image on poster describing racists in Ireland). This might be in the process of changing (I think it is) but as it stands I think you'd be allowed print the shot anyway,posting on the internet might be a different story though but I doubt it

**BohsPartisan** · 02/04/2007, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by jebus

I'm doing a photography course at the moment and ... it is okay to use their image, as long as they don't request that you don't use the image, or that you don't publically mis-use it so to speak

Ah maybe thats what it was.

**OneRedArmy** · 02/04/2007, 10:44 AM

Am I the only one who thinks its fanciful to suggest, as some have done above, that clubs are not responsible for the behaviour of their fans at away games?

I think UEFA would beg to differ.

Its certainly more difficult to control away fans and needs co-operation of home club, but not impossible.

A starting point would be bringing stewards to away games who would be able to identify troublemakers and stop them entering the ground.

**Block G Raptor** · 02/04/2007, 10:55 AM

FCUKING SCUM. am sick to death of this type of **** the club must do something now to erradicate them. I go to the games with a group of about 6/8 Lads and we've stood in block G since the jodi opened we are seriously thinking of moving to the sitting area near the halfway line now because of these little scroats which will take away a lot of enjoyment (singing etc.) from ther whole match experiance

**bigmac** · 02/04/2007, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by jebus

as long as they don't request that you don't use the image,

Afraid that doesn't work either - a person can seek an injunction to prevent a photograph being used, but again only if they can show unwarranted intrusion into privacy or harassment. A judge would not accept the argument that a photo was incrominating and therefore should not be published. Furthermore, in an environment such as a football match, photography and video footage are accepted parts of of such a situation and could reasonably be expected by the patrons attending.

Examples of photos/video without permission include CCTV, any number of crowd shots in any publications - postcards of Dublin for example, photos of players involved in the match (no permission sought) or the Gardai filming the Shell to Sea protestors.

As Jebus mentioned, the misrepresentation part is really the only restriction. There is no reason not to publish photographs of people engaged in public activities.

*edit - this may mean that you can't publish an image of a hooligan next to text describing him as a hooligan unless he is engaged in hooliganism in the image
nothing to stop you publishing images saying "A.N. Other, self confirmed member of BSC" though - if he has a bebo site saying as much

**bigmac** · 02/04/2007, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Boh_So_Good

Where the hell was the RSC security on the night. Not passing the buck, but your pompus grandstanding is really OTT. Get over yourself. Nobody at Bohs owes you an apology, because the club is not at fault here.

The fact that the RSC security acted promptly and prevented it from escalating further has been mentioned by several Bohs fans on the Bohs forum so you can have the buck back there.

I think the attitude of the genuine Bohs fans has been admirable and I hope that they can persuade the management of the club to act to sort this out quickly.

**Kildare Lad** · 02/04/2007, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Peadar

Hands up which club hasn't had an unsavory element, in their support, at one point or another?

I really really doubt we have had that element at our club before

**OneRedArmy** · 02/04/2007, 11:37 AM

I would also be surprised if UCD have had a hoolie element.

I heard a rumour that they once had an After Eight at 7.30pm, but its unconfirmed.......

**BohsPartisan** · 02/04/2007, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Peadar

Hands up which club hasn't had an unsavory element, in their support, at one point or another?

Most have but the problem is when this element gets completely out of control, which happened before with Rovers and seems to be happening now with us. It seems to me that we've overtaken Rovers in the race to have the worst scumbag element (open to correction if I'm wrong).

**Peadar** · 02/04/2007, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Kildare Lad

I really really doubt we have had that element at our club before

Clubs who actually have a fanbase only please.

**jebus** · 02/04/2007, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Kildare Lad

I really really doubt we have had that element at our club before

I don't know, we were down in Kildare once and there was 5 lads mouthing off, thats 10% of your overall support involved right there

**Schumi** · 02/04/2007, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

I know this is slighlty off topic but had to laugh, 25% of the UCD fans that travelled to the showgrounds were thrown out hardly a small minority at that club causing trouble

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More than 4 of us there!

**pineapple stu** · 02/04/2007, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

I would also be surprised if UCD have had a hoolie element.

I heard a rumour that they once had an After Eight at 7.30pm, but its unconfirmed.......

That was me. And I'd do it again. When the stewards are looking this time!

**dublinwanderer** · 02/04/2007, 2:30 PM

well this is the 2nd time tis season already that bohs have beem involved in fighting (fights in bray after match not sure who started it though). surely the fai have to do something about it?? if they dont its absolutely pathetic........