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    [QUOTE=carloz;657072][QUOTE=Nailer77;657011]You might want to question your own knowledge of the game if you want to start him as a LW

    Well he has played on numerous occasions on the right wing for Spurs and was excellent there against Chelsea around Xmas
    He was on the left against Chelsea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danonion View Post

    He was on the left against Chelsea.
    famously. poor old boulahrouz has hardly played since!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nailer77 View Post
    You might want to question your own knowledge of the game if you want to start him as a LW, I thought we'd realised that shifting players into rolls they're unfamiliar with generally doesn't work too well.
    As others have said he was excellent on the left against Chelsea. Ferreira got taken off at half time because Keane was embarrassing him and his replacement only lasted 20 minutes before he was taken off.

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    Comments like "Keane's attitude is terrible" and "He thinks he's great" make me laugh. That's just bandwagoning of the highest order.

    Take a look at the San Marino debacle. When they scored have a look at Keane's reaction before Ireland kicked off again. Look at it and tell me that's a man with a bad attitude.

    Robbie Keane seems like he just wants to play football. He's always been like that at Spurs. When he stormed down the tunnel after a game in Birmingham it was because of frustration at not getting on the pitch. You hear Martin Jol talk about him. None of the people that work with him have ever questioned his attitude.

    He is very humble; he never celebrates against his former teams. Didn't he allow Leeds to delay paying him money when they were in the ****.

    He moans at referees? Didn't another Mr R Keane make a habit of that, and once come close to assaulting a ref, but he's lauded to the rafters for being passionate?

    Robbie Keane played brilliantly against Wales. In an unfamiliar role, and one unsuited to his game, he created our best chances.

    Finally, him and Duff get more attention from opposition players when they play for Ireland because they are our creative players. If you stop them, you stop Ireland. This goes some way to explaining why they haven't always been outstanding for us. They are still worth their places though and by some margin.
    Last edited by barney; 31/03/2007 at 12:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinedineontour View Post
    how fickle some people are . Robbie Keane will be back for Slovakia and rightly so. We were not world beaters we bet an average side 1-0 and played well but Keane would have added more to the side. It seems to be the current thread to slag off keane regardless of how he plays even though he did set up the goal on saturday and looked threatening. I would play doyle up front away from home with Keane behind him where Ireland played last night . The shape was much better last night yes but doesnt mean we will play better without our most talented player. The abuse Keane gets on here is over the top. Will be delighted to have him back in the team in September and those who talk of dropping him seem to be just jumping on the bandwagon. Now the one thing I would see would the captaincy should be taken from the lad as it does seem to be too big a weight on his shoulders which he does not need. Let the lad play his football and we will reap the rewards.

    Fickle being the perfect word here.
    How quickley people forget, and suddenly Roy Curtis seems to be influencing everyone!

    Fact - strikers trive on confidence
    fact - *****s boo robbie before even gets the ball, and of course, confidence suffers
    fact - lots of ******* booed robbie and chanted 'who are you' against wales.

    As someone who as talked to robbie a few times, trust me, the silly attitiude of some fans does not help him
    He is our best player but, IMO the fans are ruining him

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    Don't think we're a better team without Robbie but the captaincy is an unneccessay distraction for him.

    Let him do what he does best and give the captains armband to Dunne, Finnan, O'Shea, Given....
    " I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie View Post
    Don't think we're a better team without Robbie but the captaincy is an unneccessay distraction for him.

    Let him do what he does best and give the captains armband to Dunne, Finnan, O'Shea, Given....
    OMG

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    Take a look at the San Marino debacle. When they scored have a look at Keane's reaction before Ireland kicked off again. Look at it and tell me that's a man with a bad attitude
    You'd never know from his post-match interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish_Praha View Post
    OMG


    Well if we take it as a given that barring horrific injury the guy's going to be in the Ireland first 11 somewhere on the park for the forseeable future then he has to be a candidate. He can hardly be considered a junior player anymore either.

    I'd have included Killer in my list but for the ...erm ...lesser certainty that he'll be there in the medium to long term.
    " I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mento View Post
    Fickle being the perfect word here.
    How quickley people forget, and suddenly Roy Curtis seems to be influencing everyone!
    I'm not fickle and I don't need journalists or anyone else to form my opinion of what I see on the pitch.

    Robbie should be doing a hell of alot more with the undoubted talent that he has. He needs to stay up front and stay on his feet.

    You have your opinion and others have theirs. I dont call you fickle or anything else , I just express my opinion and I respect yours.

    I suppose in a few months after Robbie has a good game you'll be posting on here abusing the people who abused him. You are missing the point.

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    Well he has played on numerous occasions on the right wing for Spurs and was excellent there against Chelsea around Xmas

    And Roy Keane played RB for United on a number of occasions, Duff's played LB for Newcastle, I wouldn't be advocating playing those guys in those positions. Keane is not a winger, never has been. He might have drifted to the wing against Chelsea but he's not a winger. We've a limited number of players so the get the best out of them you play them in their correct positions and Keane's is off the striker in the hole. I thought we learnt that this business of shifting players around for the sake of it isn't that productive?

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    I started this thread but even I must admit he had a good game for Spurs against Seville last night, could be the fact he has Jermaine Defoe breathing down his neck at Spurs...

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    I watched the Seville match and he seemed to be playing as the furthest man forward with Berbatov playing off him. The two of them just seem to play exactly as Jol wants. Excellent partnership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy View Post
    I watched the Seville match and he seemed to be playing as the furthest man forward with Berbatov playing off him. The two of them just seem to play exactly as Jol wants. Excellent partnership.
    Does Berbatov have an Irish granny?

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    Robbie's persistent gesticulating and appealing drives me mad and I'm convinced any referee who knows him will not give him the benefit of marginal decisions (e.g., early penalty claim at home to Israel) as refs think he's a chancer. He's a very poor header of the ball in front of goal too.

    I think that his frustrating performances for Ireland versus his better performances for Spurs is down to having a properly functioning midfield behind him at Spurs. For Ireland he's starved of quality possession and has to go all over the place just to get on the ball. Nowhere was this more apparent than in Germany.

    I think if we had a good central midfield we'd be far more appreciative of Robbie's contribution and his commitment.

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