Do you want Ireland to win, yes or no?

**cavan_fan** · 28/03/2007, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Good god NO

But then I never want Oirland to win

I just want to understand this. Is their any conceivable Irish team you would support. What would have to change, the team, manager, fans, FAI?

**eirebhoy** · 28/03/2007, 11:00 AM

It's down to patriotism of course. Put it this way, if you grew up in my family it'd even be impossible not to look forward to the cricket match on Friday.

If the world wasn't watching it probably wouldn't mean anything to me though.

**Nailer77** · 28/03/2007, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by mistergreen

Crazy Stuff is right!
The criticisim of Steve Staunton in the press has been over the top, nasty, and vindictive.
The majority of journalists in this country are more interested in maintaining their own brand than writing objectively about football.
Roy Keane - then pours petrol on things. Why not - may as well stick the boot in when a man is down. Half of the Irish nation then believe this man's crap - because Roy said it - not that there is any objective basis to it.

Thast absolute rubbish. The Cyprus and San Marino performances happened long before Keane had a chance to open his mouth so don't belittle the opinions of others with a comment as weak as that. I'm well capable of making my own mind up from what I see on the pitch and what I've seen on the pitch has been p1ss poor. I'd imagine the vast majority on here formed their opinions that way too.

**mistergreen** · 28/03/2007, 11:57 AM

My point on Roy Keane's objectivity or lack of it relates to his various opinions on David Connoll's selection, Cork biases, and such drivel.
Nobody would disagree that the performances on the pitch have been poor; however I say again - the criticism of Staunton has been over the top. Give a man a fair chance.

**craig7042** · 28/03/2007, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Paulie

Tempting and all as that offer is I'm going to have to pass.

Thats a relief....you know how you regret writing things sometimes....

**craig7042** · 28/03/2007, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Nailer77

Thast absolute rubbish. The Cyprus and San Marino performances happened long before Keane had a chance to open his mouth so don't belittle the opinions of others with a comment as weak as that. I'm well capable of making my own mind up from what I see on the pitch and what I've seen on the pitch has been p1ss poor. I'd imagine the vast majority on here formed their opinions that way too.

Well....theres some of us out there who agree with that quote...
I'm not the only one.

**Nailer77** · 28/03/2007, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by mistergreen

My point on Roy Keane's objectivity or lack of it relates to his various opinions on David Connoll's selection, Cork biases, and such drivel.
Nobody would disagree that the performances on the pitch have been poor; however I say again - the criticism of Staunton has been over the top. Give a man a fair chance.

The only criticism I'm aware of thats been over the top is the stuff in the rags and its your own fault if you read them. Keane can say what he likes, I agree with some it and I think some of its muck. But you can't just say that peoples opinions are formed by what Keane says just because they don't rate Stan. I don't rate Stan, I think he's clueless, I see no consistency or idea in what he's doing, but I formed those opinions on going to games and watching the San Marino and Cyprus debacle not because Keane told me so, as far as I'm aware Keane had his mouth firmly shut at that point.

And for the record I find it a bit funny that all this warranted criticism is being compared to the carry on of our neighbours across the water. Well what I find more familiar is the blind optimism of a few on here that appears to be coming from very little evidence, something our English friends are even more adept at.

**Nailer77** · 28/03/2007, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by craig7042

Well....theres some of us out there who agree with that quote...
I'm not the only one.

So what were Keane's clearly well know quotes after those games that were supposed to have made my mind up for me? I don't remember him saying a whole lot to be honest.

**Roadend** · 28/03/2007, 1:08 PM

Originally Posted by TonyD

Echo that. I used to be an Ireland fan. Not anymore. The treatment of Kerr by the FAI, the fans and the media was the final straw for me. If that makes me unpatriotic, so be it.

So were you a fan of Kerr then, not Ireland as such?

**BohsPartisan** · 28/03/2007, 1:38 PM

Originally Posted by Paulie

I don't see it as being a different matter. I have simply asked you how you would react if you found the team you support in the same situation that I find myself in with the team I support.

My point is that if Bohs found themselves in that position, which we did last year, I'd be in a position to try and change it. Believe me, a lot of pressure was put on the board vis a vis the Farrelly situation. We had that outlet. With Ireland and the FAI you criticise and you are censored.

Originally Posted by Paulie

I suspect, although I might be wrong, that you've never really felt represented by the national side and that as a result you're far less willing to stick with them when the going gets tough. Hell would probably freeze over before you'd stop supporting Bohs but with regard to Ireland I get the impression you were probably not that fussed in the first place.

There may be a grain of truth in that. I'll say by and large you are wrong because particularly when I was a young 'un and a teen the national team certainly did mean a lot to me. What is important to me now though is that the national team represents the sporting values I hold dear and that the players I am watching are guys who I have seen playing at club level on a regular basis, be they current ELOI players or players who have learned their trade in the ELOI. Players like Doyle and Ward. A team made up of players like that I could be passionate about no matter what the results were like, once they went out and gave their all.

**Peadar** · 28/03/2007, 1:43 PM

Originally Posted by Wexford Rules

Anyone who shouts for the opposition in Croke Park on Wednesday night does not deserve to be there.

We're obliged to sell tickets to opposition fans.
Perhaps you should contact UEFA, to voice your opinion.

**osarusan** · 28/03/2007, 2:05 PM

Originally Posted by Peadar

We're obliged to sell tickets to opposition fans.
Perhaps you should contact UEFA, to voice your opinion.

Bloody Slovakians. Never giving Stan a chance.

**Offside** · 28/03/2007, 2:09 PM

A win of course... crazy to say otherwise... just a question for anyone at the last game, what songs are people singing in the crowd these days? Watching it on tele there was little or no atmosephere at the last match at all (apart from the Mexican wave)! Do people still sing the traditional Ole Ole Ole... Or are there any songs being sang at all?

**Roadend** · 28/03/2007, 2:11 PM

Give it a lash Jack

**green army** · 28/03/2007, 2:59 PM

i am supporting ireland. so its a yes.

**Raheny Red** · 28/03/2007, 4:51 PM

I'll sit on the fence and hope for a draw

**ccfcgirl** · 28/03/2007, 4:55 PM

yes I want Ireland to win ...

**The Legend** · 28/03/2007, 5:23 PM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

I'll sit on the fence and hope for a draw

i think a draw is the worst possible result!

Win = back with a chance
Loss = Hopefully end of Staunton maybe even delaney.
Draw = we will continue to be f**ked for the forseable future.

**Over the post** · 28/03/2007, 5:28 PM

I'm hoping for a win naturally enough, partly because I'm excited by the team Stan has chosen (can't believe I've just said that) but also because I don't think a loss would mean we'd see the back of Stan or Delaney, unless it's a particularly embarassing one.