read the post again. i presume jebus was pointing out that you said the highest attendance was 10007 while i felt you meant 1007!! maybe the highest was over 10 thousand but from what you say i doubt it.Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
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Which would make 10007 a fairly big crowd? Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
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Mea culpa. An extra digit in there. Originally Posted by galwayhoop
They'd have to be having some god-awful attendances and lock-outs to water a crowd of 10,007 down to an average of only 283.......!
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This competition is only going to get bigger and bigger. Not being arrogent or anything but imagine us [Dundalk] won Division 1 and beat League cup finalist and qualified and got paired up with Linfield in a group, although im sure we would be tryed to be kept apart. 10,000 at least in each group games.
The only worry being the trouble, how would we or Linfield stop it.One team in Louth, DFC -
I don't know where to start pulling this apart. Originally Posted by mickdlk
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Welsh Premier football is not well supported, mainly as the media focus is predominantly on teams playing in the English system. The top teams aren't too bad though in terms of football. The FAW Premier Cup which was mentioned before in this thread is actually a decent indicator of the strength. Cardiff don't take it seriously, but Wrexham and to a lesser extent Swansea (who need the cash, £100,000 for winning it) do. This year there were two Welsh Premier sides in the semis and TNS won it, the second Welsh Premier side to do so in its 10-year history.
I can't see them being invited to play in the Setanta Cup because attendances are poor and therefore the sponsors wouldn't be interested, but it would definitely be interesting to see how they got on against Irish sides.
And yeah 10,007 is a big crowd, pity the real attendace was 1,007 and Steve made a balls-up!
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I've seen Swansea in this competition a few times and not once have they fielded a full team. Originally Posted by Cymro
Welsh Premier football is not well supported, mainly as the media focus is predominantly on teams playing in the English system. The top teams aren't too bad though in terms of football. The FAW Premier Cup which was mentioned before in this thread is actually a decent indicator of the strength. Cardiff don't take it seriously, but Wrexham and to a lesser extent Swansea (who need the cash, £100,000 for winning it) do. This year there were two Welsh Premier sides in the semis and TNS won it, the second Welsh Premier side to do so in its 10-year history.
I can't see them being invited to play in the Setanta Cup because attendances are poor and therefore the sponsors wouldn't be interested, but it would definitely be interesting to see how they got on against Irish sides.
And yeah 10,007 is a big crowd, pity the real attendace was 1,007 and Steve made a balls-up!
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Originally Posted by mickdlk
One - Due to security needs you wouldn't fit 10,000 into Oriel Park for the visit of Linfield FC.
Two - It is not 1979 anymore. Two days before the European Cup game in 1979 the IRA killed 18 British soliers in Warrenpoint and Lorn Mountbatten in Sligo. The tension at the game was unbelieveable. A game between the two clubs today, with proper security of course, wouldn't have anything like this level of hostility in the air.
Three - I do agree however that I don't think it is too far beyond the imagination to feel that we can win this division and a playoff against the League Cup winner. Setanta 2008 bring it on.
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It's true we don't field our full team, but it is always a strong side, or it was under Kenny Jackett. Remains to be seen how Martinez will treat it. But against Port Talbot this season we fielded Lee Trundle, Wales internationals Richard Duffy and Owain Tudur Jones, Cyprus international Tom Williams (born in England though) plus regular first teamers Willy Gueret, Ian Craney, Alan Tate, Steven Watt and Marcos Painter. We only fielded three players who weren't regulars and still lost 2-1.
Course it was away at Port Talbot and I think we'd have won if we'd played 'em at the Liberty. But I've popped down twice to see them since that game as they're not far from where I live. For £5 it's great value for money. -
One thing you'd have to watch out for that I saw at the Drogs V Linfield game, is Celtic jersey clad, tricolour wrapped, green white and orange jester hat wearing n'er do wells turning up to whip up sectarian tension.
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A bit off topic but how is the Setanta group decided if finishes even on points? Goal difference or results against one another? Thanks
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Afaik Originally Posted by micls
When two teams finish the group stage on equal points and one of those teams is St Patrick's Athletic, the scenario most favourable to St Patrick's Athletic will prevail be that goal difference or head to head clashes between the two teams in question. Should neither of these scenarios be favourable to St. Patrick's Athletic the decision will be taken by the Organising Committee.
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Portadown seemed to give it a shot in their first season, and got a couple of good away results, but last season the didn't even seem up for it against Dungannon, while this season...... Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
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Will be very interesting to see what happens if the League Cup winners are a team who are also likely to get a Setanta spot through league posiiton any way. Originally Posted by holidaysong
I do agree however that I don't think it is too far beyond the imagination to feel that we can win this division and a playoff against the League Cup winner. Setanta 2008 bring it on.
Obviously they'd rather bank on it by winng a replay, but if the League Cup winner is a good few points clear of 4th place in the Premier by the time of this play-off, why would they give a sh!t about it ? It'd just be an unwelcome distraction for them, and I can't see their fans being bothered about it either.
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From the matches I've seen I would have to second that. Originally Posted by Rogue Trader
Welsh Premier European results would also tend to third that.
Only on two occassions have Welsh Premier teams ever navigated past a round in Europe. And one of those was the absolute farce involving Longford, which was so freakish and absurd that it almost shouldn't count.....
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One thing that no one is mentioning is that the competition is a good yard stick for clubs in IL and LOI to see how they fair up against teams from another league. Clubs from both leagues must definitely be learning from it, especially those who have been in it for two or plus more years. I think it gives clubs a mindset on how to approach European games, that has to be a plus point.
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The play-off is likely to be after the end of the season so I'd imagine the league cup winner will know what position they've finished the league in. Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
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Just to put abit of input in this. Our season has been poor and we've struggled and recently the amount of injuries we've had and continue to have is unreal (less 7 first teamers for Portadown league game for example) so this hasn't helped and also last night was our 2nd most important game of the week and the squad has to be rotated as we're down to the bare bones and their getting shattered.
This season we've did alright in the Setanta and if we're in it next season I'm confident of us doing quite well as we're sure to have a better squad and come into it in better form. -
So it's highly likely to be a meaningless fixture then. Originally Posted by Schumi
Take last season - Derry won the League Cup (no change there...) and qualified for Setanta through the league.
The last thing our players, Board or fans would have been interested in would have been fulfilling a nonesense formality designed primarily to benefit First Divison clubs.
If the First Division winners were in a play-off with a team already in Setanta, would they get through regardless of the result or would it be solely if they won ? If the latter, it should be a cake-walk for them anyway so why bother in such a case ? Just put them straight through. -
You've ground out a few cerdible results this year alright - which makes your drubbing last night all the more disappointing. Originally Posted by SwiftsSupporter
But how realistic are your chances of qualifying for next year ? You're 5 points behind the current 4th place team, who also have a game in-hand.
