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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumac View Post
    If Ireland are playing, you could try bringing an Irish Flag
    ...and if someone feels the need to put a club on their flag, their are one or two Irish ones out there I think...

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    no sorry lads i'm not convinced, i saw that chelsea fella at croker with a kid who was decked out in irish kit , he obviously has allegience to ireland and chelsea , he is obviously london-irish , why not proclaim what he is at Ireland games and at Chelsea games. its no more ridiculous than putting the name of a boozer on the flag which has become a tradition now and i think these banners look great and add to the atmosphere. no problem with the galway utd or rovers or shels lads putting their name on the flags but why adopt this more irish than thou attitude? give me our individualism and our different cultures every day than 80,000 germans with the same flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerMilla View Post
    no sorry lads i'm not convinced, i saw that chelsea fella at croker with a kid who was decked out in irish kit , he obviously has allegience to ireland and chelsea , he is obviously london-irish , why not proclaim what he is at Ireland games and at Chelsea games. its no more ridiculous than putting the name of a boozer on the flag which has become a tradition now and i think these banners look great and add to the atmosphere. no problem with the galway utd or rovers or shels lads putting their name on the flags but why adopt this more irish than thou attitude? give me our individualism and our different cultures every day than 80,000 germans with the same flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerMilla View Post
    no sorry lads i'm not convinced, i saw that chelsea fella at croker with a kid who was decked out in irish kit , he obviously has allegience to ireland and chelsea , he is obviously london-irish , why not proclaim what he is at Ireland games and at Chelsea games. its no more ridiculous than putting the name of a boozer on the flag which has become a tradition now and i think these banners look great and add to the atmosphere. no problem with the galway utd or rovers or shels lads putting their name on the flags but why adopt this more irish than thou attitude? give me our individualism and our different cultures every day than 80,000 germans with the same flag.
    Firstly.....



    Secondly........Unbelieveable post.You can't see any reason why an anti Irish Club like Chelsea should be on a Tricolour no?Look on youtube and you'll see various clips of the Chelsea scum singing "No Surrender!" etc etc.
    Then you,ridiculuosly,compare it to Irish Clubs been on the Triclour.
    Your last statement is nonsensical.
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    who says chelsea are anti-irish ? just because some of their fans are ?
    anyway i am not on here to defend chelsea , just saying that people are going overboard telling this london irish fella what he can or cannot put on his flag , fact is you have no right to do that , NYhoop can preach all he wants , his views are well known , cant say i would ever in my life subscribe to them though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerMilla View Post
    who says chelsea are anti-irish ? just because some of their fans are ?
    anyway i am not on here to defend chelsea , just saying that people are going overboard telling this london irish fella what he can or cannot put on his flag , fact is you have no right to do that , NYhoop can preach all he wants , his views are well known , cant say i would ever in my life subscribe to them though.
    Actually if your going to be factual it is against the law to desocrate the flag under the 1937 Constitution.

    But it's commonly accepted when Irish Clubs etc are put on it.However putting an English Club on an Irish flag isboth farcical and disgraceful.
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    i see your point conor and that you are annoyed by this. I , on the other hand , am not annoyed. i see it as the fellas way of showing where he's from. My son ( if i ever have one) will most likely not be born in ireland, surely if i can convince him to support Ireland above the land of his birth then a flag with his home town or club on it wouldn't do much harm ? or attract the vitriol that this fella with the chelsea flag seems to have attracted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerMilla View Post
    i see your point conor and that you are annoyed by this. I , on the other hand , am not annoyed. i see it as the fellas way of showing where he's from. My son ( if i ever have one) will most likely not be born in ireland, surely if i can convince him to support Ireland above the land of his birth then a flag with his home town or club on it wouldn't do much harm ? or attract the vitriol that this fella with the chelsea flag seems to have attracted?
    But you're missing the point. To put an english club, especially an anti Irish one, on a tricolour is not only plain stupid it is looking for trouble.

    You're in continental europe? No problem with putting Brussels for example on a tricolour.

    Similarly London on a tricolour is acceptable.

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    alright , i see what you're saying.

    Place names good , club names bad.

    Thing is i still dont see the point in giving this fella stick , lets face it if chelski is as anti irish as all that he must take some grief there too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor H View Post
    Actually if your going to be factual it is against the law to desocrate the flag under the 1937 Constitution.

    But it's commonly accepted when Irish Clubs etc are put on it.However putting an English Club on an Irish flag isboth farcical and disgraceful.

    It is not against the law FACT - (sounding like a margarine kid here!)

    The only reference to the flag is article 7 which states "The national flag is the tricolour of green, white and orange


    However there is a protocol available here in relation to the tricolour and it's use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soccerc View Post
    It is not against the law FACT - (sounding like a margarine kid here!)

    The only reference to the flag is article 7 which states "The national flag is the tricolour of green, white and orange


    However there is a protocol available here in relation to the tricolour and it's use.
    Observance of the guidelines contained in this booklet is a matter for each individual because there are no statutory requirements. It is expected, however, that the National Flag will be treated at all times with appropriate respect by those who use it.
    ...
    17 The National Flag should never be defaced by placing slogans, logos, lettering or pictures of any kind on it, for example at sporting events.

    18 The National Flag should not be draped on cars, trains, boats or other modes of transport; it should not be carried flat, but should always be carried aloft and free, except when used to drape a coffin; on such an occasion, the green should be at the head of the coffin (Figure H).


    19 Care should be taken at all times to ensure that the National Flag does not touch the ground, trail in water or become entangled in trees or other obstacles.

    As well as this, I believe the tricolour flags you can buy in Carroll's etc. are merely representations of the National Flag and as such it's OK to write stuff on it, hang it in a stadium or tie it around you like a cape.

    1 The National Flag is rectangular in shape, the width being twice its depth. The three colours – green, white and orange – are of equal size, and vertically disposed. Often different shades of yellow, instead of orange, are seen at civilian functions. This misrepresentation of the National Flag should be actively discouraged.
    Now this is something that annoys me. Notice that the GAA International Rules team wear green, white and yellow and even have a representation of a green, white and yellow flag on the jersey - some ammunition for SRFC to use against TD perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint View Post
    Notice that the GAA International Rules team wear green, white and yellow and even have a representation of a green, white and yellow flag on the jersey
    Probably because they hate Protestants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint View Post
    Observance of the guidelines contained in this booklet is a matter for each individual because there are no statutory requirements.



    It is expected, however, that the National Flag will be treated at all times with appropriate respect by those who use it.
    Don't like anything on our flag but if someone wishes to put Chelsea, St Pat's or Linfield on it, that is their choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schumi View Post
    Probably because they hate Protestants.
    like peter withnal ? or jack boothman ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schumi View Post
    Probably because they hate Protestants.
    What an completely ridiculous statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerMilla View Post
    like peter withnal ? or jack boothman ?
    Peter Whitnell is actually RC. His father is protestant. He did get a lot of sectarian abuse from opposing fans all right and gave up GAA for a while over it when his mother got abused at a game.

    Sam Maguire and Jack Boothamn are normally the 2 used to prove that the GAA are non sectarian. Or you could just ask the tooth fairy if you believe that.

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    What is the obsession with writing anything on our flag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerMilla View Post
    Thing is i still dont see the point in giving this fella stick , lets face it if chelski is as anti irish as all that he must take some grief there too?
    I have no respect for him as he is an absolute tool.

    His attempt to provoke a fight with the Dutch fans during and after the win in the Arena in 2004 and his subsequent reaction when a few of us told him to pull his head in was all the evidence I needed.
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    What a clown and as for the flag

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