eircom park

**markmc** · 26/03/2007, 10:15 AM

hi everybody...
i may be posting this in the wrong place, but i need some help to resolve a bet. basiically a mate of minre reckons the plans for eircom park we just "written on back of an envelope idea", i reckoned that exact stadium plans/drawings were made, can anybody help of point me to where i can find this info?

cheers

**Dodge** · 26/03/2007, 10:20 AM

Definitely full plans (including designs etc)

**markmc** · 26/03/2007, 10:22 AM

yes, i reckoned so also, as planning permission was granted ( subject 2 conditions ), anybody on here from the building business? i need to find out if the drawings were very advanced, i.e. the knew how much steel they need to buy?

**kdjaC** · 26/03/2007, 10:25 AM

http://images.google.ie/images?q=eir...=1&sa=N&tab=wi

pics of it obviously not real

http://www.google.ie/search?q=eircom...006-41,GGGL:en

googles cache of it.

kdjac

**markmc** · 26/03/2007, 10:27 AM

excellent, getting closer!!!!!

anybody else?

**Peadar** · 26/03/2007, 10:35 AM

There was a scale model of it in the eircom buildings on Stephen's Green for years. I had the application forms for 10 year tickets, with a seat plan and all the relevant information.
The whole thing was hijacked very late in the day.
I remember there was a planning issue because it was so close to Baldonnell Aerodrome. The objection which the government used was based on safety criteria for a passenger airport. Ironically, when Michael O'Leary wanted to develop Baldonnell as a passenger airport, he was told that it would never happen and that Dublin airport would be expanded instead.
There were a lot of forces actiing against eircom Park.

**markmc** · 26/03/2007, 10:43 AM

mr ahern being the main dark force behind it. the person i have the bet with is a big ahern fan + also a constrution head ( odd that!!!! ), i need to find out if there was something called "rebarr" drawings?

**gspain** · 26/03/2007, 11:30 AM

I very much doubt if the exact plans are in the public arena but it was fully planned and costed. Some of the figures didn't stand up to full scrutiny though.

I'm not Bertie's biggest fan but the decision to abandon it in favour of the Bertie Bowl made sense. The ultimate scrapping of the Bertie Bowl by the PDs totally screwed the FAI.

**markmc** · 26/03/2007, 11:33 AM

yes, we were big time shafted by the PD's on this. i need to find out from somebody in the know if the plans were so advanced as to be able to hand them to a building firm to commence work?

**monutdfc** · 26/03/2007, 11:47 AM

Yes, senior figures in the defence forces/air corps had no problems at all with it being close to Baldonnell (look at the proposed site for Bohs new stadium, or Brentford's in London for examples of stadium very close to runways), it was the government was behind that objection (almost certainly Bertie via Michael Smith)

**markmc** · 26/03/2007, 11:54 AM

i just found the consultants on the project were a firm called arup.ie, apparently they r bigshots.....

anybody here in the construction industry know anything?

**Peadar** · 26/03/2007, 12:29 PM

Arup are one of the best in the business...

**joe_barry80** · 27/03/2007, 9:25 AM

Just followed the link on the google pics and found this http://www.navisworks.com/en/models I think you need a special program to look at it though. It seems like it is the company that designed it