Club or Country?

**sligoman** · 02/09/2007, 3:25 PM

Originally Posted by Cupcakes

Sorry dont know who you are but how is this a WUM? I just do not for a second believe some of the views here. Say for example the rovers 1st Div win in 2005..would you saw that was better than an ireland win? I was there and while there was certainly celebration its nothing like ive seen for the likes of Ireland v England euro 88. So either the views are wrong of those writing them are a bit dull in their celebrations

This is a WUM cos you're just not accepting other people's opinions on the poll result, saying they're just lying so they can look like great fans

. Of course Rovers win in 2005 was better, Sligo Rovers are my local team who play all year round. Ireland have a dope of a manager and a lot of over-rated and over paid players. Plus they also have some complete idiots following them[example being the person who had "Chelsea" wrote on an Ireland flag and displayed it at Croke Park].

I still support Ireland, I go to games, and I would love to see them win the WC but Rovers winning anything means a lot more to me and always will.

**sligoman** · 02/09/2007, 3:37 PM

Originally Posted by Cupcakes

I accept that thats what you believe. What Im saying is that i was there in 2005 and it was ok.. there were no grown men crying, peopl edancing and singing inthe street and unbridled joy. If you are honest you will admit that.

No grown men crying? No, not that I saw anyway. Dancing or singing in the street? I'm sure some did out celebrating afterwards. Unbridled joy? Well I know it was one of my happiest of Rovers time, maybe you didn't feel "unbridled joy" but I certainly did.

**dcfcsteve** · 02/09/2007, 3:39 PM

Originally Posted by Cupcakes

I accept that thats what you believe. What Im saying is that i was there in 2005 and it was ok.. there were no grown men crying, peopl edancing and singing inthe street and unbridled joy. If you are honest you will admit that.

So unless football is some over-the-top ostentatious catharsis of elation - the sporting equivalent of the reaction to Lady Diana's death in England - then it's just not real or important ?

So just because Irish people don't jump around wailing and slapping themselves on the head at funerals, like is the tradition in some Arab societies, that means they don't really give a feck about the person who's just died.....?

I used to think you were a WUM Fruitcakes. Now I just think you're a bit slow....

**soccerc** · 02/09/2007, 3:52 PM

Originally Posted by Cupcakes

You've just proven my point. There was no examples of euphoria similar to the way there would be if Ireland won the world cup. Put it this way.. I saw England win the ashes and you could see it meant so much to those who were there they felt it a momentus occasion in theor lives not just their sporting lives (or in your case it would be your "rovers life").

I am not disputing this is what people believe.. I just remain to be convinced this is true based on any trophy presentation Ive seen in the LOI. If LOI fans are so over the top happy at winning leagues, cups and promotions they certainly do well hiding it.

Well you obvioulsy weren't in Lansdowne last December when Derry won the FAI Cup in a thrilling game. Derry fans were ecstatic while Pats supporters were emotionally shattered. Hate doing this but you are a fool

**sligoman** · 02/09/2007, 3:54 PM

Originally Posted by Cupcakes

You've just proven my point. There was no examples of euphoria similar to the way there would be if Ireland won the world cup. Put it this way.. I saw England win the ashes and you could see it meant so much to those who were there they felt it a momentus occasion in theor lives not just their sporting lives (or in your case it would be your "rovers life").

I am not disputing this is what people believe.. I just remain to be convinced this is true based on any trophy presentation Ive seen in the LOI. If LOI fans are so over the top happy at winning leagues, cups and promotions they certainly do well hiding it.

You haven't proven any point. There would have been a lot more people happy with "England winning the ashes" than an EL team winning the league or cup. But that's purely based on numbers supporting it. By no means does it prove it meant more to them than a win for someone's EL team would.

**A face** · 02/09/2007, 3:55 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I used to think you were a WUM Fruitcakes. Now I just think you're a bit slow....

Could be both Steve, you cant rule that out just yet.

**BohsPartisan** · 02/09/2007, 3:58 PM

When we won the league for the first time in 23 years in Kilkenny in 2001, there was so much euphoria you'd think the entire Bohs support were on E. (It was only three quarters!)

**bohsmug** · 02/09/2007, 4:43 PM

This argument is up there with the strangest I've ever seen on here. The poster cupcakes just seems to live a very strange life. In every thread you say something along the lines of "come on you don't really believe....". It must be a very strange life to live when you think everybody lies about absolutely everything at any possible time.

When England won the ashes they were very happy. What in Gods name has that got to do with whether I support Bohs over Ireland?

**Bosco** · 02/09/2007, 5:07 PM

The celebrations after our wins against pats,bohs and rovers over the last month that I have experienced have been far more euphoric and meaningful to the people watching then anything I've experienced supporting the Irish team.

**osarusan** · 02/09/2007, 5:28 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

So just because Irish people don't jump around wailing and slapping themselves on the head at funerals, like is the tradition in some Arab societies, that means they don't really give a feck about the person who's just died.....?

Pretty poor comparison.

At least Cupcakes is comparing the same people. You're trying to compare different groups of people.

**osarusan** · 02/09/2007, 5:36 PM

Originally Posted by Cupcakes

how can anyone support a club over their country?

Originally Posted by Cupcakes

Never have I seen or heard such unpatriotism.

Originally Posted by Cupcakes

I could see the looks on their faces..it meant something. I have never seen that in the LOI

Have you ever thought that........maybe.........you aren't the biggest fan of eL football?

I voted for club over country.

**adamcarr** · 02/09/2007, 5:46 PM

Originally Posted by Cupcakes

I am not disputing this is what people believe.. I just remain to be convinced this is true based on any trophy presentation Ive seen in the LOI. If LOI fans are so over the top happy at winning leagues, cups and promotions they certainly do well hiding it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA9mezi6qYI

The place was like a morgue that night, the players didn't even care.

**Sonic** · 02/09/2007, 5:56 PM

Im a very proud Irishman but I would still support my football club before Ireland and the FAI. Longford Town gives me far more enjoyment then Ireland ever will!

**A face** · 02/09/2007, 6:04 PM

Originally Posted by adamcarr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA9mezi6qYI

The place was like a morgue that night, the players didn't even care.

Unreal !!

**De Town** · 02/09/2007, 6:04 PM

Longford Town getting 3 points next Friday night will certainly bring me a lot more joy then Ireland winning their 2 qualifiers, without doubt. Yes I like to see Ireland doing well, but it doesn't bother me if the lose.

**Sonic** · 02/09/2007, 6:10 PM

Put it this way if Longford lose it bothers me for a week if Ireland lose it bothers me for a day. That is just the way it is for me Im not trying for one second to suggest Im a bigger then any other poster on this forum. I care about Ireland but its Longford first for me. I sense that maybe cupcakes wants to ambush every thread and shove his own opinions down our throats see also the thread regarding the wearing of club colours. Its peoples opinions you dont have to agree with them.

**The Man Himself** · 02/09/2007, 6:17 PM

ireland would come first for me.
see a bit of proper football and to get away from the shyte the eircom has to offer.

**half_full** · 02/09/2007, 6:26 PM

Originally Posted by De Town

Longford Town getting 3 points next Friday night will certainly bring me a lot more joy then Ireland winning their 2 qualifiers, without doubt. Yes I like to see Ireland doing well, but it doesn't bother me if the lose.

Exactly my thoughts, except sub in the Blues for Longford Town