Club or Country?

**WeAreRovers** · 22/03/2007, 4:05 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

BL, I waved at a TV camera the other week in Dalymount.

I'd bet my house that you would too if they pointed one at you.

What a brilliant image, the most miserable fugger I know waving at a TV camera.

KOH

**osarusan** · 22/03/2007, 4:09 PM

Originally Posted by charliesboots

delusional maybe?

Can you elaborate?

Am I delusional for thinking that club and national football do not compete against each other?

Or am I delusional for objecting to being termed an idiot?

What you consider my lack of true support for my club side, I can easily consider your lack of support from your national side.

**charliesboots** · 22/03/2007, 4:18 PM

Originally Posted by osarusan

What you consider my lack of true support for my club side, I can easily consider your lack of support from your national side.

And I'd have no problem with that. I am a greater supporter of St Pats than I am of Ireland, there you go I said it myself.

In relation to delusion, my point is that you are perhaps deluding yourself (rather than being an idiot) that you are as much a Limerick fan as Limerick Fan A if you would pick an Ireland match over a Limerick match while Limerick Fan A would pick that same Limerick match over the Ireland one.

**TonyD** · 22/03/2007, 4:46 PM

Originally Posted by LeviathanNI

Besides, without club football, the National teams wouldn't exist (something both associations need to be reminded of occassionally).

Sadly, on this Island, North and South, that's not true. Both the IFA and the FAI can quite happily run their respective International teams without ever having to worry about the clubs in their respective jurisdictions. I would be a lot more inclined to support an Irish team made up of LOI players, regardless of how they might do (e.g, struggle to beat, say, San Marino

)

**wws** · 22/03/2007, 5:53 PM

Originally Posted by TonyD

Sadly, on this Island, North and South, that's not true. Both the IFA and the FAI can quite happily run their respective International teams without ever having to worry about the clubs in their respective jurisdictions. I would be a lot more inclined to support an Irish team made up of LOI players, regardless of how they might do (e.g, struggle to beat, say, San Marino

)

I think the post refers to the fact that the National association is obligated to provide a senior national league in some form or other if it is to be allowed membership of fifa/uefa

**Billy Lord** · 22/03/2007, 8:10 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

BL, I waved at a TV camera the other week in Dalymount.

I'd bet my house that you would too if they pointed one at you.

Email me the deeds of your gaff NOW. I'd mouth obscenities and give the finger if someone waved a camera into the Rovers' crowd. We've a reputation to live up to, y'know.

**Billy Lord** · 22/03/2007, 8:20 PM

Originally Posted by osarusan

But as you don't really support the national team, then you don't understand the feelings of those who do.

I guess my nationality is less important to me than my irrationality.

**Midgit** · 22/03/2007, 10:15 PM

I would rather Ireland win world cup than Rovers win the League!
Straight out.

**Anto McC** · 23/03/2007, 6:43 AM

I'd rather a Shels under 10's team beat someother under 10's team than to see Ireland win the world cup.

Actually come to think of it,i'd rather a Bohs/Rovers/Cork etc etc under 10's team beat another under 10's team than Ireland win the World cup.

**Midgit** · 23/03/2007, 9:00 AM

You obvoiusly are and Englishman so!

**Lim till i die** · 23/03/2007, 9:02 AM

Originally Posted by Midgit

You obvoiusly are and Englishman so!

I'd rather Limerick beat Kildare County tonight than Oirland winning the world cup

**Midgit** · 23/03/2007, 9:05 AM

Thats a whole lot different than seeing an U-10 team of a club you dont support win.

**Lim till i die** · 23/03/2007, 9:06 AM

Originally Posted by Midgit

Thats a whole lot different than seeing an U-10 team of a club you dont support win.

Just read that properly there

Ya the under ten things a bit odd alright

**Erstwhile B�z** · 23/03/2007, 9:41 AM

An all-Ireland team (with no involvement from the FAI or the IFA

) would be a different kettle of fish.

**bennocelt** · 23/03/2007, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by charliesboots

club absolutely and anybody who picks country first is either an idiot or not a true supporter of their club!!

Pats winning an FAI Cup would mean more to me as a fan than the national team winning Euro Champs and World Cup back to back. Problem is none of the above are likely to happen in my lifetime!!

thats simply not true

im one of the few that has went for country over club, for the simple reason my town hasnt an eircom league team, or anything that even resembles one,
but it has a team and yes i do go to the odd, very odd game, when i can

simple logic then would see me support my country

i dont support any british team, etc but I do like to attend the local teams of the area im living in at the moment, and do some coaching which i am at present with underage teams

but i do admire you all that do support your local teams, and wish my town had a team in the eircom league

**Midgit** · 23/03/2007, 1:00 PM

I am of the same view.

**gustavo** · 23/03/2007, 1:08 PM

Originally Posted by Midgit

I am of the same view.

except you do have a senior club nearby.

**adamcarr** · 02/09/2007, 3:09 PM

Originally Posted by Cupcakes

Just been directed to this thread.. how can anyone support a club over their country?

"I'd rather Rovers beat Bohs than Ireland winning the World Cup"

Sorry but I fear this is simply competition to see who can be the most super-dooper hardcore fan and take that poll with a pinch of salt. Never have I seen or heard such unpatriotism.

How can someone be patriotic to our national team when a strong contingent aren't even Irish born. Id have City beat UCD in a ****ty league cup game in Belfield over Ireland beating Slovakia. I'm not saying that I do not like our national team, I just don't respect some of the players in the squad.

**sligoman** · 02/09/2007, 3:12 PM

Yet another thread for Cupcakes to WUM in...why did I show them this

.

**soccerc** · 02/09/2007, 3:17 PM

Originally Posted by adamcarr

How can someone be patriotic to our national team when a strong contingent aren't even Irish born.

Of the named squad below how many constitute a strong contingent who are not Irish born?

Club Caps Goals

Goalkeepers:

Nick Colgan Barnsley 9 0

Colin Doyle Birmingham City 1 0

Shay Given Newcastle United 80 0

Wayne Henderson Preston North End 6 0

Defenders:

Richard Dunne Manchester City 36 5

Steve Finnan Liverpool 47 1

Kevin Foley Wolverhampton Wanderers 0 0

Stephen Kelly Birmingham City 6 0

Paul McShane Sunderland 5 0

John O’Shea Manchester United 39 1

Midfielders:

Lee Carsley Everton 34 0

Jonathon Douglas Leeds United 7 0

Darron Gibson Manchester United 1 0

Stephen Hunt Reading 6 0

Stephen Ireland Manchester City 5 3

Kevin Kilbane Wigan Athletic 81 7

Aiden McGeady Celtic 11 0

Alan O’Brien Hibernian 5 0

Darren Potter Wolverhampton Wanderers 3 0

Andy Reid Charlton Athletic 23 4

Forwards

Kevin Doyle Reading 10 3

Robbie Keane Tottenham Hotspur 73 31

Andy Keogh Wolverhampton Wanderers 2 0

Shane Long Reading 5 3

Daryl Murphy Sunderland 3 0