QuoteAgreed. It's water under the bridge - like not getting picked for an U-16 international at the Carlisle Grounds 20 years ago.Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Plenty of good top managers have their zany conspiracy theories even their wierd superstitions. Roy still hangs on to his opinion to the end but it's clear he talks more sense than nonsense.
Agreed. It's water under the bridge - like not getting picked for an U-16 international at the Carlisle Grounds 20 years ago.
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Hes an ideas man......I think he proved that with "**** Mountain"....Agreed. It's water under the bridge - like not getting picked for an U-16 international at the Carlisle Grounds 20 years ago.
i think there is merit to the comment that the FAI has a pro-Dublin slant, at underage anyway. i don't think Keane is right with his comments of an anti-cork (did he say this or is this just how it was interperated?) bias but there is definately, in my experience, a pro-dublin slant at underage. not at senior level though. connolly was born outside london AFAIK and his people are from co. Galway.
Are we not all over complicating this?He has a major axe to grind.Hes not stupid, he knows it going to make the headlines.Hes enjoying turning the heat up before a couple of important qualifiers.Its being well documented that he has been manipulative with media in past battles, as is his right.But as somebody mentioned before though its the timing.If you like RK fair enough
but why do people feel the need to defend him when hes acting with such little integrity.
Firstly is anyone really saying that it is a disgrace that Liam Miller and David Connolly were nto picked. At best they are as good as what we have but they both have shown an inability to perform at a high level. It's not like Stan left out Shay Given or Robbie Keane.
Secondly, is Roy just trying to p*ss everyone off. Is he really saying Shay is not setting the world alight? What does "Also Steve Finnan at Liverpool" mean. It's nto even a sentence. Is it "Aslo Steve Finnan at Liverpool is playing badly" or " .. is my dream date". Roy it would be easier to take your promotion of Connolly if you dint rant at our good players
Oh yeah, yeah, the guy in the $3,000 suit has to worry about upsetting the clown who picks the Ireland team. COME ON!
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Anyway we are really missing the whole point. The best comment was about dinner on Friday night. Keane was asked was he going and he said no as it was not his sort of thing but that it should be a good night.
Asked was his chairman going?
"bloody hell yes, he is probably organising it"
Niall is a busy man as he also does the phones for the FAI.
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How does mouthing of about an anti-Cork sentiment in the FAI (come on, you have to admit thats nonsense) and moaning about players not being included gain publicity for the guide dogs for the blind? I'd say the charity got one line in the whole piece. How many complete articles in the media were written about the charity v Keane's whinge?
The comment about his wife was below the belt, hands up there!
Im not a dub, citizenerased, I am from Liverpool originally and have lived in Kildare and Cork in my time in Ireland (16 years).
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keane is a media whore -
Niall is a clever man, very clever, he got the appointment and pretty much everything spot on at Sunderland this season. Sacking himself was top of that list he admits.
[QUOTE=reder;649971]How does mouthing of about an anti-Cork sentiment in the FAI (come on, you have to admit thats nonsense) and moaning about players not being included gain publicity for the guide dogs for the blind? I'd say the charity got one line in the whole piece. How many complete articles in the media were written about the charity v Keane's whinge?
The comment about his wife was below the belt, hands up there!
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In fairness, because of the rant there was pictures with keane all over the paper with a guidedog! Hardly doing the organisation any harm!!
Keane has always used the media for his own benefit. He knows he's more intelligent than the majority of hacks and can manipulate them whatever way he wants. He used this as an opportunity to show his loyalty to his own players aswel as gaining publicity for the charity.
I don't think any of the players should let his comments affect them any more than the slating they got after the cyprus and san marino away games
from what i read at lunch (granted it was only the red tops) his comments weren't too wide of the mark.
questioning the below par performances of our so-called star players: duffer, keane, o'shea.
questioning the overall attitude - of the FAI in particular - with regards accepting mediocrity,
questioning the wisdom of declaring 'we are building for 3 / 4 years time' and the obvious effect this has on the current qualification campaign,
comparing the lack of ambition of the FAI to that off the IRFU and even the Cricket Board
questioning the false idea that the fans just want to have the cráic and don't care about results.
i reckon his comments echo the views of many people on this forum and aren't as damning as people think.
PS - i am not one of the 'Everything Roy Keane says or does is right' brigade and felt he was wrong in Saipan. Just so people don't thing i am part of the RK PA machine!!!!
Ring the FAi you will get a laugh with the guy who does the voice mail.
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I agree with what he said totally aswel. I meant that if the players need a tsunami of criticism to get them to perform at their peak, then there's no hope for Ireland in the long termfrom what i read at lunch (granted it was only the red tops
questioning the below par performances of our so-called star players: duffer, keane, o'shea.
questioning the overall attitude - of the FAI in particular - with regards accepting mediocrity,
questioning the wisdom of declaring 'we are building for 3 / 4 years time' and the obvious effect this has on the current qualification campaign,
comparing the lack of ambition of the FAI to that off the IRFU and even the Cricket Board
questioning the false idea that the fans just want to have the cráic and don't care about results.
i reckon his comments echo the views of many people on this forum and aren't as damning as people think.
PS - i am not one of the 'Everything Roy Keane says or does is right' brigade and felt he was wrong in Saipan. Just so people don't thing i am part of the RK PA machine!!!!
Good response from Staunton.
Staunton deflects Keane criticism
Paul O'Hehir
Thursday, March 22, 2007
Steve Staunton refused to be drawn into a war of words with Roy Keane after the Sunderland manager indirectly criticised a number of senior Republic of Ireland players yesterday.
Keane suggested some members of the current squad are living off their reputations and not producing quality performances in the games that count.
Amongst other things, he said there was a "fine line between loyalty and stupidity" and that some were selected on "reputations they have built through the media or because they do a lot of interviews".
But Staunton refused to criticise his former team-mate when questioned by journalists after team-training in Malahide this morning.
"Roy has got his own opinions and they are his opinions. I'm here to deal with Ireland," he said.
"Roy has done a wonderful job at Sunderland, that's his job but I've got mine to do here. I'll pick my team and that's the end of it. It's not about Roy Keane now. It's about Ireland playing a European qualifier on Saturday."
Ahead of the Wales game at Croke Park, Staunton is in the unusual position of having a full complement of players to select from.
Paul McShane and Stephen Ireland were carrying ankle knocks when they arrived at the team base earlier in the week but both trained today. Still, medical staff will closely monitor their progress.
"McShane and Ireland both trained and there has been no reaction as yet," said Staunton. "We'll wait and see what happens later on but hopefully there is nothing to report.
"For a change we've a clean bill of health. We'll assess the two lads again tomorrow then we'll know better.
"Hopefully nobody goes down with any injury or illness between now and Saturday," he added. "We're taking nothing for granted but hopefully all is well."
Staunton, who concedes a draw will be of no use to his team in light of their group position, said he has selected his starting team but will not reveal its components until closer to match-time.
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Keane was right.
I think I should the parachute, because I'm great.
In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.
You obviously don't know how the media works. To get a charity (or any product or event for that matter) promoted in the media you always have to have an angle. Pick up any of today's papers and have a look at the amount of models/bimbos that are used for photo shoots in the middle of Grafton St. or on The Ha'Penny Bridge, etc. promoting anything from Daffodil Day to Cancer Awareness, etc. It's always the model that gets into the paper and as a result the cause is given some media attention. With Keane it's his comments that are his angle.
An awful lot of famous people do charity work but could you name many people and their associated charities? However, everybody knows what charity Keane is associated with.
As for Keane comments, I agree with everything he's said about the setup in the FAI, it'd be hard not to, but saying that Miller is not getting picked because he's from Cork? That's just nonsense.
It'll be interesting to see what Keane's attitude will be towards his squad players getting picked for internationals further into his managerial career especially when he has to deal with things like fixture congestion and injuries.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the reason for his latest rant is a little bit of ego massaging for Miller. I think he's trying to instill a little bit of victim complex to give him that bit of extra fight and "I'll show them them" attitude.
Great post totally agree with you.
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