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    If he gets all the planning permission for the things he wants on site, we be unstoppable financially. The centre, shops,gym, flats, pub would generate enough income to sustain the club.

    I dont want to do a shels and buy everyone, pats have a tradition of getting the best out of certain type of players, i hope that continues with players coming tru rather than Zayed etc:

    With Kerr there i have faith Johnny mac wont go FM07 on the league, and if JMC goes i think Dolan will come back may even come back before that in some job.

    How can other teams compete with a Chelsea type situation, our old board struggled for years and tbh well done to them for having the club in a decent position.

    Regarding why us? Rovers ground issue and previous history isnt a decent selling point, but if they had Tallaght sorted they would be the next Kelleher type person investment.

    Bohs had the deal agreed at some point before Kelleher met Andy.

    Shels who the **** wants a 1st div club but than likkely Ollie put them off, put my job off sponsoring them.

    Would Bohs Rovers Shels fans accept this guy if he picked them?


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    Out of interest-what exactly is in the other bank of the Camac?. any chance of a new access route into the site (pedestrian or vehicle)? Richmond is a very constrained site to build anything other than a 6k capacity ground. Will be very interested to see how this pans out. good luck to the junkies bit i for one am glad not to have to place the fate of my club in the hands of one potential benefactor-no matter what offer is on the table though.
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    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/171/4...c44b00.jpg?v=0

    kelleher owns the factories some of the houses and the hill behind the camac would be an aquedate stand if the camac was piped. As for placing our faith in one man...... You must be new to the Eircom league?

    its not an offer he owns the club the lease on the ground, everything, we are his bitch now.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bad mongo View Post
    Out of interest-what exactly is in the other bank of the Camac?. any chance of a new access route into the site (pedestrian or vehicle)?
    Plan is for an access point from Inchicore Road, probably where the current park is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kdjaC View Post
    If he gets all the planning permission for the things he wants on site, we be unstoppable financially. The centre, shops,gym, flats, pub would generate enough income to sustain the club.

    I dont want to do a shels and buy everyone, pats have a tradition of getting the best out of certain type of players, i hope that continues with players coming tru rather than Zayed etc:

    With Kerr there i have faith Johnny mac wont go FM07 on the league, and if JMC goes i think Dolan will come back may even come back before that in some job.

    How can other teams compete with a Chelsea type situation, our old board struggled for years and tbh well done to them for having the club in a decent position.

    Regarding why us? Rovers ground issue and previous history isnt a decent selling point, but if they had Tallaght sorted they would be the next Kelleher type person investment.

    Bohs had the deal agreed at some point before Kelleher met Andy.

    Shels who the **** wants a 1st div club but than likkely Ollie put them off, put my job off sponsoring them.

    Would Bohs Rovers Shels fans accept this guy if he picked them?


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    Sorry but I would rather be in our position that yours. Our destiny is in our own hands, when we move we have about €40m in the bank and its the clubs. The interest alone on that is a few million a year. You have an owner best case scenario has no plans to move you etc, but may get bored, see no return etc in the long run. So if this guy picked us I would say NO and we will look after ourselves, rather than bank on someone who has to this point in his life had no interest in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chippie0001 View Post
    Sorry but I would rather be in our position that yours. Our destiny is in our own hands, when we move we have about €40m in the bank and its the clubs. The interest alone on that is a few million a year. You have an owner best case scenario has no plans to move you etc, but may get bored, see no return etc in the long run. So if this guy picked us I would say NO and we will look after ourselves, rather than bank on someone who has to this point in his life had no interest in the league.

    bit closed minded chippie? how on earth do we attract outside investment (which I believe is essential) with that attitude - there is no one involved in irish football with that kind of moolah - so Irish football doesnt contain the answer in itself - it HAS to appeal to the big rollers and stop them - stupidly - in my view investing in Sunderland and their ilk

    I mean Sunderland?? wot in the name of fck has that to do with Ireland??

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    Quote Originally Posted by chippie0001 View Post
    Sorry but I would rather be in our position that yours. Our destiny is in our own hands, when we move1 we have about €40m in the bank and its the clubs. The interest alone on that is a few million a year. You have an owner best case scenario has no plans to move you etc, but may get bored, see no return2 etc in the long run. So if this guy picked us I would say NO3 and we will look after ourselves, rather than bank on someone who has to this point in his life had no interest in the league.

    1 If when , rovers should be a lesson in how things work, letting fasn run a club is complete madness, and letting bohs fans run a club is comcial, how long has Connor got?

    2* return in the EL? if you put in 25 mill as kelleher is what can you honestly get back? 400k if you do 4 in a row? there is no money to be made unless 2 things happens you sell one player to PL every year and get into the CL. you must be apart of the bohs running staff if you believe you will get a return out of a El club.

    * Kelleher is a buisness man he wil get a return for the club out of the pub and flats and AFL team. Bohs fans/club are not all they are doing is ****ing 40 million into the wind in a mad belief they will be better than Rovers, unless you have a strategy to retain the investment and and capitilise on ehh stuff you ehh own umm sorry after taking the 40 million and running im kinda lost on the plan to keep Bohs at the top of the league.


    3 he did you told him to feck off as you just agreed your own deal to move out of Dublin City.

    Pats living of Shels and Bohs scraps and loving it


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    Quote Originally Posted by wws View Post
    bit closed minded chippie? how on earth do we attract outside investment (which I believe is essential) with that attitude - there is no one involved in irish football with that kind of moolah - so Irish football doesnt contain the answer in itself - it HAS to appeal to the big rollers and stop them - stupidly - in my view investing in Sunderland and their ilk

    I mean Sunderland?? wot in the name of fck has that to do with Ireland??
    Ssshh stop talking sense, sell your ground move to tallaght and compete with Rovers history. I mean its what bohs are doing so we should all do it. Completley overlook the fact someone irish is investing in a irish club along with wallace who have the money to back up any mad ideas they have.

    Wallace has Dolan , Kelleher has Kerr...........


    rocket science it is not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wws View Post
    I mean Sunderland?? wot in the name of fck has that to do with Ireland??
    I caught the end of NewsTalk's excellent 'Off Their Balls' radio show and someone texted in a similar comment. The presenter (really sharp guy) made an insightful point in response

    Oh yeah, because the eircom League is REALLY attractive to investors, isn't it???
    I didn't hear what he said after that because I was distracted by the explosion of my sarcasm detector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdjaC View Post
    If he gets all the planning permission for the things he wants on site, we be unstoppable financially. The centre, shops,gym, flats, pub would generate enough income to sustain the club.


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    Where are these going to be built? I always thought the Richmond Park site was very small.

    Has Kelleher made his plans for the site public?
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    How much would Richer be worth now anyway lads?
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face View Post
    How much would Richer be worth now anyway lads?
    a very sizeable sum it would be safe to assume...

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    Figures range from 15-50 million
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Figures range from 15-50 million
    And if its developed?



    (Just asking now lads, its obviously a reasonable question aswell)
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Not savvy enough to read between the lines but if the ground was going to be extended to 10/15k then surely there will have to be some extraordinary building because Richmond always appears limited. Even more so having looked at the picture. Would it be possible to build a bigger stand over the Camac?
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    Thats the plan, and he's bought land behind the inchicore end and on emmet road...
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    this is the benchmark site value in the area - a quote from the papers about the Hilton Hotel site in adjoining Kilmainham - a stones throw from Richmond Park and adjacent sites.

    "In Kilmainham, Dublin 8, he (Lally) bought the old Nestle Rowntree factory from Treasury Holdings for €25 million and is developing apartments and a 120-bed Hilton hotel on the site. That deal ended up in the Supreme Court after property developer Bryan Cullen took legal action to force Treasury to sell the site to him."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Thats the plan, and he's bought land behind the inchicore end and on emmet road...
    So we're talking a complete demolishing of Richmond?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kdjaC View Post
    1 If when , rovers should be a lesson in how things work, letting fasn run a club is complete madness, and letting bohs fans run a club is comcial, how long has Connor got?

    2* return in the EL? if you put in 25 mill as kelleher is what can you honestly get back? 400k if you do 4 in a row? there is no money to be made unless 2 things happens you sell one player to PL every year and get into the CL. you must be apart of the bohs running staff if you believe you will get a return out of a El club.

    * Kelleher is a buisness man he wil get a return for the club out of the pub and flats and AFL team. Bohs fans/club are not all they are doing is ****ing 40 million into the wind in a mad belief they will be better than Rovers, unless you have a strategy to retain the investment and and capitilise on ehh stuff you ehh own umm sorry after taking the 40 million and running im kinda lost on the plan to keep Bohs at the top of the league.


    3 he did you told him to feck off as you just agreed your own deal to move out of Dublin City.

    Pats living of Shels and Bohs scraps and loving it


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    guff of the highest order. You make it sound nice and simple: Canny investor with unbeatable business plan Vs Fans boys with cheque books. If/when there is a wobble in either proposed future for Pats or Bohs who's gonna be left standing: A members owned entity or a private company?

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