QuoteDo they still give that thing out?? I haven't seen that awarded at a game for years. I stand corrected if they do and agree that it is ridiculous.Originally Posted by Schumi
That viking helmet yoke is still going isn't it?
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
Do they still give that thing out?? I haven't seen that awarded at a game for years. I stand corrected if they do and agree that it is ridiculous.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Trophy
England "forgot" to award it to Ireland at Twickenham when they won there 3 years ago.
There was nothing to award, it didn't exist.
Eh it did and has done since 1988. The triple crown trophy is the one that didn't exist three years ago.
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But unless France lose one of their remaining matches we won't have won the league. That's the really disappointing thing, to be consistently in the top 2 or 3 teams for each of the eight seasons of the 6 Nations but never take home the championship.
It's better than not winning the Triple Crown of course.Does anyone know why there was no Viking Hat Presentation after the England game?
Incidentally, France and Italy now compete for the Garibaldi Trophy. Now that really takes the biscuit.
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Last edited by geysir; 08/03/2007 at 3:51 PM.
Winning the Triple Crown is massive
We need France to lose to England heavily...
but if that happens.. then it brings england into the picture..
Also we will need to pull off a good result against Italy.. but as they turned over scotland and now ahead against wales they are looking good this year..
Fingers crossed!"!
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East off the drinkWinning the Triple Crown is massive
We need France to lose to England heavily...
but if that happens.. then it brings england into the picture..
Also we will need to pull off a good result against Italy.. but as they turned over scotland and now ahead against wales they are looking good this year..
Fingers crossed!"!
Delighted to see Italy beat Wales this afternoon.
So was I but the ref's decision not to allow time for the line out at the end after telling Wales that he would was disgraceful.Delighted to see Italy beat Wales this afternoon.
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
My use of "home nations" was in inverted commas
Anyone who discounts triple crowns has no sense of history and what it means to a small rugby playing country like Ireland. Ireland has won triple crowns in 1894, 1899, 1948 (39 years gap!), 1949, 1982 (33 year gap!), 1985 and then the plethora 2004, 2006 and 2007. Thus only 9 in over 100 years of rugby history. Familiarity has bred contempt in recent years but they are something to be treasured. Doesn't show lack of ambition and to say you shouldn't celebrate something achieved only 8 times before in 100+ years of history shows a startling lack of appreciation of history. We have just seen at Murrayfield how hard it is to win them.
Well done Ireland.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
I see there was a bit of a rumpus about O'Sullivan's 'deliberate attempt to choke O'Gara' comments.
How would Eddie know if it was deliberate or not? It was okay to highlight the incident, there is no evidence for intent.
Or does it not make waves in the Rugby when an unnamed player, out of 2 possibles, is accused of murder on the pitch? Are the Scots not asking for an apology?
Will O'Gara's missus ever be able to look at him play again?
O'Sullivan never uses 5 words when 4 will do, so I'd place a lot of weight in the fact that he came out and talked about it.
And if you've played rugby, you'll know yourself that it is readily apparent when someone is trying to deliberately injure you as opposed to being unfortunate to have fallen badly or ended up at the bottom of a ruck.
I also find it telling that the Scots have closed ranks and are denying everything, rather than someone coming out and saying that it was accidental.
Minnowism.My use of "home nations" was in inverted commas
Anyone who discounts triple crowns has no sense of history and what it means to a small rugby playing country like Ireland. Ireland has won triple crowns in 1894, 1899, 1948 (39 years gap!), 1949, 1982 (33 year gap!), 1985 and then the plethora 2004, 2006 and 2007. Thus only 9 in over 100 years of rugby history. Familiarity has bred contempt in recent years but they are something to be treasured. Doesn't show lack of ambition and to say you shouldn't celebrate something achieved only 8 times before in 100+ years of history shows a startling lack of appreciation of history. We have just seen at Murrayfield how hard it is to win them.
Well done Ireland.
Thought Ireland were very lucky on sat. Next weekend should be fascinating. Think we will beat Italy but not by much as they will be in great form but fear france will thrash the scots. The scots will fall to pieces away from home. I think wales v england will to too close to have any effect on the championship.
I think the 'deliberate attempt to choke O'Gara' comment was used to try and deflect the attention away from the poor performance by our lads. O' Gara made a meal out of it, lying on the ground, he was never out. He could have easily stood up but choose to lie on the ground.
Before anyone starts to get into the detail of choking or strangling, i have studied judo for most of my life and know exactly how to apply a joke properly. "Grogginess" comes after being strangled or choked out cold or almost being out cold. If the scots applied the choked properly to any degree, o' gara would have been out cold given the amount of time the scot applied the choke for.
Last edited by reder; 12/03/2007 at 11:14 AM.
I don't get it
The Scots are rugby players, not Judo experts.
Are you serious? Did you see the colour of him in the photos?
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
Possibly, but does Eddie usually use those tactics in his post match interview? My feeling is that he was in some shock over the incident in where O'Gara went through a period of time in a strangled state,without air.
Imo that's the least likely interpretation of the event, in fact, preposterous.O' Gara made a meal out of it, lying on the ground, he was never out. He could have easily stood up but choose to lie on the ground.
The evidence of the camers shows us clearly that O'Gara was limp and lifeless, that Hayes gave him full and immediate attention while the game was still going on and still in the balance. I would trust the evidence of the camera and Hayes instincts over yours on this matter.
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