Who will win the Setanta Cup?

**Dodge** · 27/02/2007, 1:07 PM

Originally Posted by Shelsman

Fair enough, but it WAS Portadown you were playing

I agree. I was just making the point it wasn't a slow start for us, as Pete posted. Looking at the standard last night, ourselves and Cork should pick up maximum points home and away v the Northern teams

**daniel** · 27/02/2007, 1:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ebmania

Derry have new team and the Drogs have the names but do they have the heart.

what makes you think this

we have signed rodgers, bermingham, ohalloran and moran!

**micls** · 27/02/2007, 2:19 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Cork should pick up maximum points home and away v the Northern teams

From now on

Great start for Pats alright.....good for the confidence.

Our group will come down to the Pats City matches to see who wins it.

Drogs are up against it alright but from the coverage Derry were shaky enough last night so its far from over.

**Ebmania** · 27/02/2007, 2:40 PM

Yes but new management. Total new way the club is being coached.

**lofty9** · 27/02/2007, 2:45 PM

Originally Posted by micls

from the coverage Derry were shky enough last night so its far from over.

We weren't great but were never shakey. The only problem I had with last night's performance and had all last season too is the anonymity of Martyn in the midfield away from the Brandywell. Aside from that, we will only get better with more competitive games. I was unaware Cork had played so few preseaon matches, but I still see them as a threat. As I said previously Linfield will be a match for any team. As far as the Drogs are concerned I can't see them getting a draw or win at the Brandywell. We will be up for it big time, especially with the added spice of Stuart Byrne's welcome to look forward to.

**Shelsman** · 27/02/2007, 5:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ebmania

Yes but new management. Total new way the club is being coached.

On that point, I hate to say it but ye had better get used to playing 4-5-1 in anything but the first round when ye are in Europe. Fenlon has a "thou art the mightier, o European opponent!" mentality as soon as he's clear of the first round. It will be a far cry from the positive attacking football that Stephen Kenny had you playing.

Don't say I didn't warn ye

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**Anto McC** · 27/02/2007, 5:26 PM

Kenny played 4-5-1 in Europe too.

**Shelsman** · 27/02/2007, 5:28 PM

Originally Posted by Anto McC

Kenny played 4-5-1 in Europe too.

Yes BUT he didn't play 4-5-1 LONGBALL !!!!!!!!

**ndrog** · 27/02/2007, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by lofty9

We weren't great but were never shakey. The only problem I had with last night's performance and had all last season too is the anonymity of Martyn in the midfield away from the Brandywell. Aside from that, we will only get better with more competitive games. I was unaware Cork had played so few preseaon matches, but I still see them as a threat. As I said previously Linfield will be a match for any team. As far as the Drogs are concerned I can't see them getting a draw or win at the Brandywell. We will be up for it big time, especially with the added spice of Stuart Byrne's welcome to look forward to.

well you didnt anticipate us beating and drawing with you in the brandeywell last season , never mind thrashing you in utd park .Keep writing us off though its great

**dancinpants** · 28/02/2007, 4:47 AM

Originally Posted by ndrog

well you didnt anticipate us beating and drawing with you in the brandeywell last season , never mind thrashing you in utd park

Can you supply a quote?

**dancinpants** · 28/02/2007, 4:48 AM

Originally Posted by Shelsman

Yes BUT he didn't play 4-5-1 LONGBALL !!!!!!!!

Don't remember that complaint after Split!!

**BohsPartisan** · 28/02/2007, 7:58 AM

Originally Posted by dancinpants

Don't remember that complaint after Split!!

Exactly! Fenlon is the most successful LOI manager this decade, end of. Never heard Shels fans moan about his record or style before. If you think Fenlon was negative, you've obviously wiped the memory of DK's last spell with you.

**Raheny Red** · 28/02/2007, 8:02 AM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

Exactly! Fenlon is the most successful LOI manager this decade, end of. Never heard Shels fans moan about his record or style before.

Well we have, in Europe we moaned about his style of play, and in the league playing Harris up front which worked not alot. Also, with the money he had at his disposal I think anyone could have won the league

**lofty9** · 28/02/2007, 9:21 AM

Originally Posted by ndrog

well you didnt anticipate us beating and drawing with you in the brandeywell last season , never mind thrashing you in utd park .Keep writing us off though its great

We struggled against the smaller teams last year in fairness

Especially teams who played 5-5-0 at the Brandywell. But I'm sure Doolin will be under more pressure to actually allow his team to pass the half way line at the Brandywell this year on more than 2 occaisions. The 3-1 game at United Park was a disaster - and IMO Kenny's team selection that night was ridiculous and was affected by telling the players that day that he was off to Dunfermiline.

This year though you are the new Shelbourne, we tend to raise our game.

garyderry · 28/02/2007, 1:11 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

Exactly! Fenlon is the most successful LOI manager this decade, end of. Never heard Shels fans moan about his record or style before. If you think Fenlon was negative, you've obviously wiped the memory of DK's last spell with you.

yeah will be entertaining to hear how $hel$ fans think they of their football style this season with that muppet there again, god i hope we get them in one of the cups

**dcfcsteve** · 28/02/2007, 1:35 PM

I'd originally have backed Drogs, but am less confient in them now they've lost at home.

I can see Linfield and City sneaking through from our group. Depending on who gets the home draw in the semi, I then wouldn't be surprised if it ended in a Derry-Linfield final after that.

That would certainly draw the biggest crowd and generate the most excitement ! Though it would probably have to be played at Windsor, which would be an issue.

Red&White · 28/02/2007, 1:39 PM

Originally Posted by garyderry

yeah will be entertaining to hear how $hel$ fans think they of their football style this season with that muppet there again, god i hope we get them in one of the cups

You mean there's a chance we mightn't? I thought our FAI Cup third round at Tolka had become an annual thing?

**David** · 28/02/2007, 2:27 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I'd originally have backed Drogs, but am less confient in them now they've lost at home.

I can see Linfield and City sneaking through from our group. Depending on who gets the home draw in the semi, I then wouldn't be surprised if it ended in a Derry-Linfield final after that.

That would certainly draw the biggest crowd and generate the most excitement ! Though it would probably have to be played at Windsor, which would be an issue.

Why would it be an issue? Us playing at Tolka Park against Shelbourne was not an issue.

garyderry · 28/02/2007, 2:30 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I'd originally have backed Drogs, but am less confient in them now they've lost at home.

I can see Linfield and City sneaking through from our group. Depending on who gets the home draw in the semi, I then wouldn't be surprised if it ended in a Derry-Linfield final after that.

That would certainly draw the biggest crowd and generate the most excitement ! Though it would probably have to be played at Windsor, which would be an issue.

Why?????

Was grand last year and should be grand this year,
has a bigger capacity than Tolka, and much closer,
day out in belfast is a lot cheaper than a day out drinking in dublin

**wws** · 28/02/2007, 2:34 PM

commendable reaching for the stars there

I somehow doubt Derry will get out of the group, let alone be able to beat pats at the semi final or final stage.

I look forward to meeting Linfield though