QuoteRR, any idea which are loan and which are permanent?
Not really...Originally Posted by Shelsman
All this seems to suggest that Shels aren't going to fold. Great Stuff!
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RR, any idea which are loan and which are permanent?
AFAIK you can loan as many players as you want but can have no more than 4 in your squad for matches. There is alot of free agents still unsigned and it looks as if they have a keeper sorted in Dean Delaney as he left derry after failing to agree terms. Derry signin Ola a Danish keeper (oops that aint official yet)Is Mick O'Donnell signed for any1 yet. he supposed to be keen on stayin in Dublin 'cause o work/study (not sure which).
either way with a weekly wage budget of 9k in Dublin you can attract a side capable of competin in 1st Div. especially under keely's own brand of "sexy football"
If Shels are allowed enter the league with debts outstanding and put together a budget of 9k a week for the First Division it's the fcukin disgrace to end all disgraces
I agree. They should be able to survive on half that.If Shels are allowed enter the league with debts outstanding and put together a budget of 9k a week for the First Division it's the fcukin disgrace to end all disgraces
Keely to manage current League Champions in the First Division?
Looks like the standard of football just dropped a hell of a lot lower in the First
That question was less stupid, though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
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Anyone know what the 1st Division average is? If they start living beyond their menas again they should be kicked out. The FAI should warn them now to declare their intent.
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All of this has happened before. All of it will happen again.
I know operate at a lower level than most after paying up debts, but I'd imagine the average is around 5 or so?
I mean, just think of the crowds Division One gets.
And if they're not living beyond their means on E9k?
There were figures up from the Star a couple of years ago. UCD were second in the Premier on turnover of about E350k, or about E9k a week, given a 39-week season. That had to cover travel, match-day costs, the various other teams we put out, etc. I think that was about mid-table turnover-wise for the division.
I think Harps budget is usually 5-7k the last couple of seasons and our debt aint near the same as Shels and we will prob attract more support than Shels this season
Their outgoing chairman - Brown - said that the would have a wage budget bigger than two-thirds of the Premier Division this year. Media speculates their budget will be 9-11k per week.
For a club with huge debts that is pretty shocking in all fairness. Even when you take away the money owed to Revenue and players, there are still many outstanding debts and Shels will still be living off whatever OK wants to throw at them, until he decides that he has waited around long enough.
Ours was around 6k afaik
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I have no idea which ones are loan deals apart from the first three which afaik we have signed -> Tony O'Dowd, Jim Crawford, James Chambers, Mark O'Brien, Davitt Walsh, Conor Rafferty, Brian Gartland, Ciarán Ryan, Wayne Byrne, Kieran Harte, John Brophy, Aaron McEniff, James Hussey. I'm not too sure if these are even confirmed (apart from the frist 3) but what are being mentioned on various club websites!
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But as O'Dowd (according to the papers) is still signed on with Malahide United - is exempt from that rule - as he is still active with a club.
As I read it - Rule 38 - iirc - deals with those who are "unattached"
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What?!?
Only seeing this thread now. That is an absolute disgrace if the FAI let Shels go ahead with a budget like that and €12 million or whatever it is in debt.
Disgusting if true. Harps board and supporters have been working their balls off fundraising throughout the close season to put a good squad together capable of challenging. They are going to have a budget, effectively twice ours HANDED to them while they owe half the country money!!
I'm quickly losing whatever sympathy I had for them. Like someone else pointed out, it is as if no one has learned anything.
Still, two of our ex-players they have signed, Walsh and Harte would not have made our team this year. Been lucky to make the squad to be honest.
Shelbourne's budget is to be underwritten by Ossie Kilkenny.
There's also the fact that Shels are exempt to the rules,or so we've been told by so many people on here for the past 5 years.
Which makes it all the worse for Division One club fans.
Alot of them have cleaned up their act and sorted their finances in the past few seasons. Now Shels are thrown into the mix - a club beinh handed 9-11k p/week in wages by some businessman and who are massively in debt. It is very frustrating, I think KCFC will do the talking on the pitch on the 9th.
That's one way of looking at it, or you could say that he put a squad and a team in place that should have went up only for Hannigan to come in and and mess it up.
I'd gladly settle for a "journey man" to come in and put a squad together that could challenge for promotion because John Ryan certainly won't, especially on the budget that he has.
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