Premier Division Odds 2007

**OneRedArmy** · 22/02/2007, 4:19 PM

Originally Posted by pete

IMO the Derry City squad has gone backwards & has certainly not improved

We have lost one starting player (Forde) who was considered to be a liability by many on here and have signed an U21 international in Bermingham and proven players in Rodgers and O'Halloran.

It may not be a Drogs or Bohs-esque buying spree but we certaintly aren't any weaker.

As point out, Cork's squad on paper has been weakened the most of all the top teams.

**dcfcsteve** · 22/02/2007, 4:22 PM

I wouldn't put money on us to win the league personally until a few games in.

We've had a weak pre-season, scored 2 goals in 4 games, let in 5 goals, and are playing with a second-string keeper.

It all comes down to how quickly it takes us to get back into the winning spirit. A first game at home versus Bray should hopefully help.

**JW.** · 22/02/2007, 4:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

I've backed us to win the Setanta group at 4/1. Again I'd be hoping we signa striker before the deadline

So have I (and Cork at 9-4).
Cork haven't lost Neal Horgan yet, and Billy Woods is a decent left-back. Full back is the least important position on the pitch. Bennett is the big loss alright.
They've potentially the best player in the league in Roy O'Donovan (who is like a new signing in a away as he only started playing up front at the end of last season), the best player in the league in Joe Gamble, and serious competition for places in midfield now. I can't agree that they'll be much worse.

**wws** · 22/02/2007, 4:44 PM

Originally Posted by JW.

So have I (and Cork at 9-4).
Cork haven't lost Neal Horgan yet, and Billy Woods is a decent left-back. Full back is the least important position on the pitch. Bennett is the big loss alright.
They've potentially the best player in the league in Roy O'Donovan (who is like a new signing in a away as he only started playing up front at the end of last season), the best player in the league in Joe Gamble, and serious competition for places in midfield now. I can't agree that they'll be much worse.

time will tell i suppose

the new season cant come quick enough

**pete** · 22/02/2007, 5:01 PM

Team from last season

Devine
Horgan Bennet Murray Murphy
Lordan O'Brien Gamble Woods
Fenn O'Donovan

This season

Devine
Horgan O'Callaghan Murray Woods
Healy Farrelly Gamble Kearney
O'Flynn/Behan O'Donovan

O'Callaghan barely played last season. Murphy missed a lot of games due to suspension. Gamble missed 10 games due to suspension so could not top that. Bennet will be missed. Fenn was motivated last year as last year of contract. We finished 19 points ahead of Pats will thin as feck squad.

Derry City have lost some defenders & replaced with Rodgers (useless) & O'Halloran (City & then Shels reserve). O'Flynn was proven backup forward & Bermingham unknown. How will the team respond to Fenlon?

If Drogs had Rico, Fenlon or Kenny would win the league in a canter. Still amazed they did not go for Fenlon whose proven winner with the best squad.

4-1 on Pats for Setanta Cup group is great value as we start very slowly.

**bluemovie** · 22/02/2007, 5:08 PM

What are the odds on the use of an asterisk not being necessary at the bottom of the league table this year? Or in any one of the next ten years? When was the last time there WASN'T a points deduction in either division? Even apart from the Shels situation, it's a banker that there'll be a few deductions for unregistered players or maybe even a club or two collapsing mid-season again.

It will be a sign that the league is finally on track the first year that there are no asterisks required.

(By the way, if anyone gets a POTM nomination for references to Asterix the Gaul/Obelix, etc, I'm claiming the assist!!)

**Ceirtlis** · 22/02/2007, 5:53 PM

I had my bet on Cork City to win their setanta cup group voided after St.Pats replaced Shels with bet365. Did this happen to anyone else. Im a bit ****ed off about it to be honest.

**Schumi** · 22/02/2007, 6:21 PM

Originally Posted by bluemovie

When was the last time there WASN'T a points deduction in either division?

The 2000/2001 season I think although Longford got their points back in 02/03.

**lofty9** · 22/02/2007, 7:23 PM

Originally Posted by pete

O'Flynn was proven backup forward

A proven back up forward? In Derry that means he was ****ing useless!!!

**Sonic** · 22/02/2007, 7:49 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

If we sign Paisley he might be in the defence somewhere.

u wont forget it!!

**finnpark** · 22/02/2007, 7:51 PM

For the best odds check www.oddschecker.com .

Drogs best price is 5/1 with expertbet

My odds would be:

Drogs 13/8
Derry 11/4
Cork 3/1
Bohs 5/1
33/1 Bar

**JW.** · 22/02/2007, 7:57 PM

Originally Posted by Ceirtlis

I had my bet on Cork City to win their setanta cup group voided after St.Pats replaced Shels with bet365. Did this happen to anyone else. Im a bit ****ed off about it to be honest.

Very unlucky. I haven't been voided by Hills anyway. As far as I'm concerned the bet should stand.

**Dodge** · 22/02/2007, 7:58 PM

Originally Posted by finnpark

For the best odds check www.oddschecker.com

For smaller books (like the LOI one) odds comparison sites aren't always up todate. best to check with the bookies themselves

**pineapple stu** · 22/02/2007, 8:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ceirtlis

I had my bet on Cork City to win their setanta cup group voided after St.Pats replaced Shels with bet365. Did this happen to anyone else. Im a bit ****ed off about it to be honest.

I thought that would happen, but my bet with Paddy Power seems to still stand.

**JW.** · 22/02/2007, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

For smaller books (like the LOI one) odds comparison sites aren't always up todate. best to check with the bookies themselves

I think the best one is www.odds-comparison.co.uk. This is 100pc up-to-date in general. The only thing is it doesn't include Boylesports or Cashman's.

**Dodge** · 22/02/2007, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by JW.

I think the best one is www.odds-comparison.co.uk. This is 100pc up-to-date in general. The only thing is it doesn't include Boylesports or Cashman's.

Thats the one I'd use but like I said for Irish markets its not 100%

**bohs til i die** · 22/02/2007, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by JW.

Why shouldn't Cork challenge? Shels are gone, Derry are probably a bit worse and Cork are probably only a bit worse as well.
I've backed Pat's at 33 but was hoping you'd have signed a striker whose name isn't Vinny Arkins by now!

I fail to see how Derry are worse. They are set to sign Dean Delaney who is an ok keeper, Jennings is a good keeper. The rest of the players they offloaded were squad players and they have added Rogers and O'Halleron.

Derry have Molloy, McCourt, Martyn, Brennan, Deery, Higgins, McGlynn in midfield, which is the strongest in the league IMO.

They have added to the defence with two players who won the title last season and have several league medals.

IMO its Derry's title to lose.

**RockofGibraltar** · 23/02/2007, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by centre mid

Odds from ladbrokes.ie
Derry City 2/1
Drogheda Utd 9/4
Cork City 10/3
Bohemians 9/2
St Patricks Athlethic 12/1
Shamrock Rovers 18/1
Sligo Rovers 25/1
Galway Utd 40/1
Bray Wanderers 66/1
UCD 80/1
Longford Town 80/1
Waterford Utd 80/1

so does that mean if shels werent demoted an waterford promoted...then we'd be the biggest outsiders in the league? ie.favourites for relegation?