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    Given that we were the last team to win the league honestly and still have so many players who know what it takes to win a title, I think 4/1 is a great price. The FAI have pitted City v Bohs in the last game of the season because they clearly think we're the two best teams and will do everything in their power to ensure that it's a title decider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JW. View Post
    Very unlucky. I haven't been voided by Hills anyway. As far as I'm concerned the bet should stand.
    I checked with Paddy Power and Corals (where I have Drogs at 5/1) to see what they would do if Shels did not start the premier. Powers said all bets would stand regardless.
    Corals said all best void, form a new market. I'm not sure they can do it. Rule 4 should apply which potential winnings reduced. But Shels have been replaced by another team, its not an 11 horse race now, its still twelve.

    Bet still standing but they are still taking odds on Shels for the premier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celdrog View Post
    I checked with Paddy Power and Corals (where I have Drogs at 5/1) to see what they would do if Shels did not start the premier. Powers said all bets would stand regardless.
    Corals said all best void, form a new market. I'm not sure they can do it. Rule 4 should apply which potential winnings reduced. But Shels have been replaced by another team, its not an 11 horse race now, its still twelve.

    Bet still standing but they are still taking odds on Shels for the premier
    This would suit Corals enormously, as they built up large liabilities on Pat's, Bohemians and Drogheda. I'll be very annoyed if this is the case. They certainly haven't refunded me yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JW. View Post
    I think Derry overachieved under Kenny and believe that he is a better manager than Fenlon, who had easily the best squad year-after-year at Shels.

    I'd say we under achieved by failing to win the league on two seperate occaisions. Time and time again when Shels played Derry we were the better team.. the best squad doesn't make the best team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celdrog View Post
    I checked with Paddy Power and Corals (where I have Drogs at 5/1) to see what they would do if Shels did not start the premier. Powers said all bets would stand regardless.
    Corals said all best void, form a new market. I'm not sure they can do it. Rule 4 should apply which potential winnings reduced. But Shels have been replaced by another team, its not an 11 horse race now, its still twelve.

    Bet still standing but they are still taking odds on Shels for the premier

    If that happens than John Delaney, Bertie Ahern and Macalese should all resign forthwith. There will be blood on the streets if this UK bookie tries to re-enact Bloody Sunday by voiding all Irish EL bets layed in confidence.

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    I agree with wws - it's a faaah-aws

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    There shouldn't even be a rule 4 deduction as its an ante post market IMO

    (and I'm not talking through my book here either as I haven't backed anything)
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    just back to the point about odds comparison sites raised above in this thread - the bookies pay a fee for inclusion so some may not be on the price site you are checking - and may belong to another - I've been checking prices for a tipping league we have on our Pats site and theres some differences between straightforward match odds 'best price' from one site to another...ideally you'd want a quick gander at two or three if you were serious. And thats even before you accept that non mainstream Irish bookies are not gonna stump up the fee to join the UK based odds comparison sites....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    There shouldn't even be a rule 4 deduction as its an ante post market IMO

    (and I'm not talking through my book here either as I haven't backed anything)
    Basically the question to ask is: If you backed Shels to win the Premier Division, would you think you'd be entitled to your money back? I'm not sure I would.

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    ADVICE I GOT IS THAT IT STANDS


    you'd win an appeal if they did pull fast one

    The only rule CORALS have for antepost football is:



    League Winners
    For the settlement of Ante-post bets, final League placings count.



    Also their rules for non-runners are as follows:



    ) Non runners


    sports betting rules


    back to top


    In the event that a selection for an event does not participate, or if an event is cancelled, then bets on these will be considered non runners.

    Excepting bets placed under ante-post conditions, a single bet on a non runner will be made void and the whole stake refunded. Where a non runner is part of a multiple bet the whole bet will not be made void, but only the parts of the bet relating to that selection. For example, a treble involving a non runner becomes a double - to the same stake - on the remaining two selections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wws View Post
    For example, a treble involving a non runner becomes a double - to the same stake - on the remaining two selections.
    That happened to me on Paddy Power before when a game in my treble was cancelled.
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    Derry are stronger than last season minus Forde. And should be among the favourites to win the League. With Shels out of the Premier picture, it opens up a chance to look at some newer faces, Cork and Drogheda will be in the top 5 but someone like Bohs , Pats or even Rovers could get in there too.

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    While i need not rate Forde as much as others Jennings & Delaney are inadequate replacements.

    Bennet is the only player that will be really missed while the Cork City squad is stronger in all positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie View Post
    Derry are stronger than last season minus Forde. And should be among the favourites to win the League. With Shels out of the Premier picture, it opens up a chance to look at some newer faces, Cork and Drogheda will be in the top 5 but someone like Bohs , Pats or even Rovers could get in there too.

    no CTID, somehow i doubt we'll be in the top 5 next season

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    Quote Originally Posted by wws View Post
    ADVICE I GOT IS THAT IT STANDS


    you'd win an appeal if they did pull fast one

    The only rule CORALS have for antepost football is:



    League Winners
    For the settlement of Ante-post bets, final League placings count.



    Also their rules for non-runners are as follows:



    ) Non runners


    sports betting rules


    back to top


    In the event that a selection for an event does not participate, or if an event is cancelled, then bets on these will be considered non runners.

    Excepting bets placed under ante-post conditions, a single bet on a non runner will be made void and the whole stake refunded. Where a non runner is part of a multiple bet the whole bet will not be made void, but only the parts of the bet relating to that selection. For example, a treble involving a non runner becomes a double - to the same stake - on the remaining two selections.
    They don't have a leg to stand on. I'll be straight on to IBAS if they try and void the bet because of their incompetence.

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    I asked Ladbrokes and they said that all bets will be settled as losers regardless of who wins the league because Shels would've won it anyway.

    It will save them come the end of the season though as last year they weren't too keen on settling Shels as a winner the day after they won the league!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC_GUFC View Post
    It will save them come the end of the season though as last year they weren't too keen on settling Shels as a winner the day after they won the league!
    Maybe they pay out on the Moral winner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Maybe they pay out on the Moral winner?
    I can definitely see this taking on Dodge

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC_GUFC View Post
    I asked Ladbrokes and they said that all bets will be settled as losers regardless of who wins the league because Shels would've won it anyway.

    It will save them come the end of the season though as last year they weren't too keen on settling Shels as a winner the day after they won the league!
    I've actually checked with Ladbrokes and all bets on shels void, all other bets stand with no rule 4, same as setanta cup
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    Quote Originally Posted by centre mid View Post
    I've actually checked with Ladbrokes and all bets on shels void, all other bets stand with no rule 4, same as setanta cup
    Fair play to Ladbrokes, it was good to see they had 1st goalscorer prices up for the Setanta Cup games last night - but bizarrely not for the live game!

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