Sunday Biz Post

**bholg** · 19/02/2007, 3:06 AM

Originally Posted by Peadar

On paper, wws, but they're welcome to the paper cups!

0-0 draw specialists must have some defensive qualities. No harm trying to tap into that.

dont give a sh!t.... as long as yis beat por-di-down....ill be happy

**Calcio Jack** · 19/02/2007, 7:16 AM

Originally Posted by Celdrog

Been hearing that for four years now.
The only next thing we are is being League champions this season

Maybe it has been covered here before...but would like to hear from a Drogs fan the exact detail of how your current investors plan to provide you with a new stadium.... seems to me that all that is happening is akin to Shels ie new investor has come in , pumped money into the club via loans and taken over ownership of the ground (almost) on some vague promise of selling it off and developing a new stadium out of town..... now where did we hear that sceanario before.... hope it works out for you but I suspect the 'devil is in the detail' of which their is very little in the shape of binding contracts etc... so IMO Drogs to find themselves homeless and investorless in about 2/3 years.

**Celdrog** · 19/02/2007, 8:50 AM

The Drogs deal is done. Unlike Shels our club owns our ground, United Park, not the lease on it. Of course it is not sustainable for the 3 amigos to continue to throw money into the club, but if anybody cared to look at their business plan you wiill see that the medium term plan, never mind long term is for the club to be self sufficient.

A property developer has the land beside the motorway. The rezoning has been given the green light. He is buiding the stadium, leisure centre, retail warehousing which will be owned by the club. In return he gets United Park, which the Drogs own, unlike the bestest team in the country who rent their ground from the MFA, have no tangible assets, have lost several of their key players, have seen their attendances go down season on season, only got the inter-two bob bit because Derry won the cup and whose fans still believe Brian (I have investors lined up) Lennox and Damien (I am a brilliant man manager, look how I got all the players to stay) Richardson will deliver them the league this year.
And they say we are in denial

And Peader, Stuey Byrne, Mikko Vilmunen, Aidan O'Keefe, Ollie Cahill and Richie Baker were all free transfers this year. We only paid good money for Zayed and Barrett. When we move from United Park, which is very poor we will have the best ground in the league. We currently have the best training facilities in Mosney and its all ours.

If it all goes pear shaped well then we will have had our few years in the sun and will go back to the dark days. We are excited at the thoughts of possibly winning the league for the first time ever. I hope Shels carry on unlike a lot of sad "fans" who are drooling at the prospect of them and the Drogs crashing and burning, instead of SunderIreland and its commitment to Irish football or Thomas Davis with a similar commitment. Will you be glad its us in Europe to bring home some more co-efficient points?

Your bitterness / jealousy for the Drogs is now legendary but at least we are all EL fans, with a lot more in common than you think so get over it

**BohsPartisan** · 19/02/2007, 9:27 AM

Originally Posted by Celdrog

The Drogs deal is done. Unlike Shels our club owns our ground, United Park, not the lease on it.

The FAI owns United Park. However the Drogs get to keep the majority of the proceeds of the sale. Its some complicated set up that was explained to me by Cosmo.

Originally Posted by celdrog

We currently have the best training facilities in Mosney and its all ours.

The best training facilities in Mosney? As opposed to the ones the asylum seekers use?

If you are suggesting you have the best training facilities in the league, you're having a laugh. Mosney is a kip. At least us and UCD have better facilities than you.

**Calcio Jack** · 19/02/2007, 9:35 AM

Originally Posted by Celdrog

The Drogs deal is done. Unlike Shels our club owns our ground, United Park, not the lease on it. Of course it is not sustainable for the 3 amigos to continue to throw money into the club, but if anybody cared to look at their business plan you wiill see that the medium term plan, never mind long term is for the club to be self sufficient.

A property developer has the land beside the motorway. The rezoning has been given the green light. He is buiding the stadium, leisure centre, retail warehousing which will be owned by the club. In return he gets United Park.

Your bitterness / jealousy for the Drogs is now legendary but at least we are all EL fans, with a lot more in common than you think so get over it

Wha ??? I think this is the first time I've ever commented on Drogheda...so where are you getting the 'bitterness' stuff from ??

As I said was wondering how concrete are the plans re Drogheda. I've heard all the points you made above before but can anyone confirm that these plans actually exist as a reality eg I thought the FAI still held the lease on Utd Park due to them bailing you out a few years back ? Sure planning permission may be in place but when will the work on the new stadium start and more importantly finish ?? and the big one how are the loans to the club structured, how much is owed etc. Personally I think it would be great for the league to have a vibrant strong Drogheda in place however having lived through the debacle of the Colwell/Maguire years at Rovers I'm understanably not convinced and if I was a Drogheda fan I'd enjoy my day in the sun but would also seek much clearer evidence that the future is as bright as you think.

**Peadar** · 19/02/2007, 9:50 AM

Our training facility used to be a League of Ireland ground. We're currently building a new facility, with the help of Cork City Council.

With regard to dreaming of the best ground in the country, only if you build before Bohs, will you have a chance to claim that honour and even if you do, it will be short lived.
Good luck getting people to travel to Meath for you home games though.

**Peadar** · 19/02/2007, 9:57 AM

Actually, now that I think of it, our training ground has more covered seats than United Park.

**LukeO** · 19/02/2007, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Celdrog

The Drogs deal is done. Unlike Shels our club owns our ground, United Park, not the lease on it. Of course it is not sustainable for the 3 amigos to continue to throw money into the club, but if anybody cared to look at their business plan you wiill see that the medium term plan, never mind long term is for the club to be self sufficient.

A property developer has the land beside the motorway. The rezoning has been given the green light. He is buiding the stadium, leisure centre, retail warehousing which will be owned by the club. In return he gets United Park, which the Drogs own, unlike the bestest team in the country who rent their ground from the MFA, have no tangible assets, have lost several of their key players, have seen their attendances go down season on season, only got the inter-two bob bit because Derry won the cup and whose fans still believe Brian (I have investors lined up) Lennox and Damien (I am a brilliant man manager, look how I got all the players to stay) Richardson will deliver them the league this year.
And they say we are in denial

And Peader, Stuey Byrne, Mikko Vilmunen, Aidan O'Keefe, Ollie Cahill and Richie Baker were all free transfers this year. We only paid good money for Zayed and Barrett. When we move from United Park, which is very poor we will have the best ground in the league. We currently have the best training facilities in Mosney and its all ours.

If it all goes pear shaped well then we will have had our few years in the sun and will go back to the dark days. We are excited at the thoughts of possibly winning the league for the first time ever. I hope Shels carry on unlike a lot of sad "fans" who are drooling at the prospect of them and the Drogs crashing and burning, instead of SunderIreland and its commitment to Irish football or Thomas Davis with a similar commitment. Will you be glad its us in Europe to bring home some more co-efficient points?

Your bitterness / jealousy for the Drogs is now legendary but at least we are all EL fans, with a lot more in common than you think so get over it

Do you still believe your new stadium will be ready by November?

**BohsPartisan** · 19/02/2007, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

Cork found out a few seasons back that there fans would not travel a couple of miles across the city for their games i think drogs and Bohs will find the same in time.

Our new ground will be about the same distance from some of our main catchment areas as Dalyer is so it shouldn't make much difference in that respect.

**MariborKev** · 19/02/2007, 10:45 AM

��In many ways, we are dealing with the sins of our fathers. What happened, happened. We have to move on and make sure it does not happen again. We have worked hard and we have installed better structures and safeguards.�

Have to say I have real problems with this statement. If the structures are safeguards are better, then we are truly dealing with the Emperor's new clothes!

First major test of the "new" system was the Dec licence, and has been nothing but a shambles.

**Peadar** · 19/02/2007, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

Cork found out a few seasons back that there fans would not travel a couple of miles across the city for their games i think drogs and Bohs will find the same in time. It is dangerous to move out of your main catchment area.

That area is now very built up and the Ballincollig Bypass runs right by it.
15 years ago, it was a wilderness.
Simply a project ahead of it's time, as the infrastructure exists there now.

**Peadar** · 19/02/2007, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

But your main catchment area in Phibbsboro itself ?

There are almost no Dubs living in Phibsboro' anymore!
Their numbers in Cabra keep falling due to their desire to shoot each other.

**BohsPartisan** · 19/02/2007, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

But your main catchment area in Phibbsboro itself ?

Main catchment areas would be Cabra (which will be a little further from Harristown than Dalyer - nothing significant) and Finglas, which is about the same distance from both. Then you have Ballymun (closer) Blanchardstown (not much difference), Santry (Closer), and the North County (closer). On top of this the site is well serviced by busses, there'll be easy access from the M50, the metro (if/when implimented) will stop within walking distance of the ground and of course its only a stonesthrow from the airport, allowing our legions of international fans from Malaysia, the continent and Manchester easy access to the ground.

Add to this that we'll be marketing towards new fans and Swords which will be nearby, has a population comparable to Waterford.