Ireland XV v England

**shakermaker1982** · 21/02/2007, 11:29 AM

kind of off topic but how do you lads reckon GSTQ will be received Saturday?

**Student Mullet** · 21/02/2007, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

kind of off topic but how do you lads reckon GSTQ will be received Saturday?

There will be at least one fan booing.

**geysir** · 21/02/2007, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Schumi

He's offside if he runs (directly) in front of the ball or blocks a defender from making a tackle, otherwise he's OK.

Are there no grey areas? contraversial tactics?

**Schumi** · 21/02/2007, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Are there no grey areas? contraversial tactics?

Loads, that's the general idea though.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 21/02/2007, 12:05 PM

Flannery and Best should have started imo. Good to see out strongest back line on the pitch. We would have beaten the French if we had it then.

**paul_oshea** · 21/02/2007, 12:18 PM

ya true dman.

schumi, i may be wrong, but if two players are running for the ball in two different lines that is fine, however if two players are running in different lines and one moves over and keeps running to block the path of another i always beleived this to be obstruction i.e. same penalty as offside.

im still really ****ed off about the france game.

**finlma** · 21/02/2007, 4:17 PM

Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

kind of off topic but how do you lads reckon GSTQ will be received Saturday?

Hopefully with respect. I'll be on the Hill on Saturday and anyone booing another countries national anthem will be kindly told to shut up.

**Superhoops** · 21/02/2007, 7:04 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

I don't see what the ref did wrong in that incident in not allowing advantage play when Murphy gathered the ball and broke away. Murphy only gained an unlikely advantage after the ref blew his whistle.
The ball was knocked on, the ref blew as another French player picked up the ball and tried to offload it.

The offside rule is confusing.
In the same incident the French have players offside. One French player came in at a scissors direction to pretend to receive the ball, the ball bipasses him of course but he is still running on ahead of the ball into the irish line creating some obstruction. Why is that not offside? Is there some leeway? Looks to me that it is carefully crafted, first you have a dummy movement with the added effect of some obstruction.

Geysir, you have real problem, you actually understand the rules of Rugby!!

**Superhoops** · 21/02/2007, 7:21 PM

Originally Posted by Student Mullet

There will be at least one fan booing.

Hopefully, that is not you!

Don't know anything about you but if you intend booing (a) you are not a sports fan, and (b) you are a poor excuse for an Irishman.

The world has moved on. I have no 'gra' for England or the English and take great pleasure in seeing them stuffed in any sport they play. However, any team and their supporters should reasonalby expect to stand in a stadium and listen to their own anthem, without having to listen to irreverant gobsh*tes.

I have had the pleasure of following Ireland all over the world and have always respected the national anthem of every country we have played and except for some mindless morons in a few countries have always appreciated the respect that has been given to our anthem.

I would far prefer they played their own national anthem, instead of the cop-out that the IRFU have done with 'Ireland's Call'. I would rather stand and respect GSTQ intead of giving any respect to a Eurovision song.

**finlma** · 23/02/2007, 10:26 AM

Robinson is out of the game so that really increases our chances. If Johnny Wilkinson doesn't recover I really can't see us being beaten.

**pete** · 23/02/2007, 11:29 AM

If Ireland can match the England forwards the irish backs can win the game.

With Robinson out England will play an even more conservative game as little threat in the backline. England definitely a one man show now & if the lose Wilkinson Ireland will be red hot favourites.

**OneRedArmy** · 23/02/2007, 1:03 PM

Originally Posted by pete

If Ireland can match the England forwards the irish backs can win the game.

With Robinson out England will play an even more conservative game as little threat in the backline. England definitely a one man show now & if the lose Wilkinson Ireland will be red hot favourites.

Hit Wilkinson early and see how fit he is.

Agree that if the pack can at least match England we should be fine. THis England pack isn't a patch on the Leonard, Johnson, Dallagio vintage of a few years back.

**paul_oshea** · 23/02/2007, 1:39 PM

“The atmosphere at Croke Park was brilliant, incredible. It made you proud to be Irish. There was unbelievable support in the second half,” said O’Gara.

and not to forget be a PROUD irish man!!!!

id rather see england at their strongest, we are at that stage now where we should be able to say, bring it on, and we are so i dont see why ye lot are hoping everyone is injured!!!! drop the inferiority complex, we ARE the best team this side of the equator.

**OneRedArmy** · 23/02/2007, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

we ARE the best team this side of the equator.

We should be Paul, but we're patently not.

We are getting dangerously close to being bottlers and seeing the best Irish team in history slipping away without actually winning anything.

In many ways tomorrow is only a sideshow, we need to beat the French and the Argies in September.

**paul_oshea** · 23/02/2007, 3:44 PM

well actually im hoping we dont beat the french, as i have a ticket for cardiff

but of course to beat the argies i beleive we will.

ya we have always been bottlers no matter what sport, it must break back to that inferiority complex of being irish. seriouslly.

**osarusan** · 24/02/2007, 5:35 PM

Half time, 23-3 up. If only every day could be like this (so far).

And Scotland just suffered what must be one of the most embarrassing defeats in their history.

**osarusan** · 24/02/2007, 6:33 PM

Happy, happy days.

**OwlsFan** · 25/02/2007, 9:00 AM

Some raw emotion during the Irish national anthem which I never thought I'd see at a rugger match where most renditions I ever heard would barely be heard outside the ground. Most of the players gave so much in singing the anthem they had nothing left for Ireland's Call and you'll note that it was nearly only the Nordies who sang that.

Feared the worst when England came back after half time but great win in the end. Sat on the couch straight through from 1 pm to 9 pm: 3 rugby matches and a soccer match (Setanta Liv vs Piggies) with wife bringing in dinner on a tray. Life is good

**pete** · 25/02/2007, 10:39 AM

Great performance by Ireland. Not much to say but that they dominated in every area of the pitch.

I have noticed that Amhr�n na bhFiann was sung with much more gusto this weekend & two weeks ago against France then you will ever hear for GAA match. I really hate the GAA habit of cheering before the anthem is finished.

**finlma** · 25/02/2007, 10:50 AM

What a day that was - I've never seen an atmosphere like it, glad I was there. Good to beat the English but I wouldn't get carried away - they are a very poor side. The 6 Nations can be seen as a failure as we didn't win the Grand Slam.