I was expexcting some slur on the management's tactical naivety or amateur training methods, but instead it's because Noel Hunt didn't play?Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Personally I'm really surprised that as team captain Robie didn't endorse Andy Reid's selection or at least his appearance as sub.
Anyway, who could we realistically replace Stan with anyway? Nobody of any great calibre I reckon, or nobody who'd be remotely interested.
Craig,
Slovakia were awful and we had them beat until Stan made his ridiculous substitutions.Should have been three points going into a game against Czech team without Koller and Baros.
Yes in certain positions we are short but you make the best of what you have.The insane decision in playing Douglas on the right wing(or anywhere) lead to the goal.Too many basic mistakes.
But we didn't lose. And we're not out of this competition yet. This tabloid head-on-the-block nonsense is depressing.
If we fail to win on Wednesday, he should be shown the door. Get in someone who can start building a team for the next world cup campaign.
As regards Kilbane, I thought he done well on Saturday. He is a very limited player but he certainly gives his all. He is also the only target Shay given has when he kicks out the ball.
Always look on the bright side of life
Stutts I reckon any decent League 1 manager would take the job and all in my mind would do a far better job than Stan.
John Sheridan or Jim Gannon are options. Possibly Stephen Kenny. We are not going to get any world beaters now after the sham that was the Kerr and Staunton periods in charge that's for sure but surely we can do better.
Sweden's manager Lasse Lagerbäck gets an annual salary of approx. e215,000, has qualified his team to every major championship since 2000, and will take his team to the European Championships next year.
Stan gets e400,000.
It just makes you wonder .....
WHich is the very reason he will not be got rid of. A pay off costing more that €1 million. Won't happen even if we finished behind San Marino.
Didn't see Sir Bobby at the game. Is he no longer part of the world class management team?
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
I think he should be let go if they fail to win on wed nite. he should have been fired after the holland game. harsh but how many second chances can ya give the guy. a generation of players wasted on a rookie manager. We will be in a difficult group for the WC qualifiers. no point pretending otherwise.
One. After that its a third, forth, fifth etc etc
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So Jim Gannon who couldn't get Dundalk within a sniff of promotion from eL Div 1 despite having a bigger budget than all but 1 other side in the division is "an option" while Stephen Kenny who got Longford promoted and into Europe on a shoestring, won the title with Bohs, the Cup with Derry, took Dunfermline to a Scottish Cup Final and almost saves them from relegation despite them being doomed when he took over is "a possibility".
suppose he only has to "turn the corner" 3 times before he is back where he started.....
Make no mistake this is going to hurt us and hurt us bad. It was always going to be a big ask from this team to get 4 points from these games and we have failed to take the full amount from what was (most of us would say) the easier game. The Czechs will want to kill us off on weds and if we give the ball away as cheaply as we did against the slovaks then we will be mauled by them. Staunton must learn the lessons of saturday, McGeady must not start, Play the defenders in position and don't even contemplate playing Douglas. Keane has got to show us that he is worth a place in this side by actually scoring a goal that counts it's been too long since the WC and Germany in 2002. I fear for future of football in Ireland, appointing an L plate manager to steer your national side which after all is the flagship of Irish football is reckless and financial suicide. Underage teams aren't faring much better with the increasingly obstinate Don Givens failing to inspire the younger players coming through. Delaney and the jumped up provincial apparatchiks who support him are leading Irish football back to the dark ages BC! For all the spin coming out of FAI headquarters about 'regional academies' 'plans' etc the (senior national) cash cow is being left unmilked because the man in charge is acting like a tit instead of yanking on them!
Christ why oh why was stan appointed? Look at the quality of players we have compared to what brian kerr or mccarthy had when they took over. Real potential and promise.
With a moron in charge we will never get anywhere. Imagine not learning a single thing from that 4-0 win in Denmark. I mean did he just think it was a fluke and that it would be better to continue with carsley in midfield, drop reid, drop hunt, Play kilbane LM (who i admire greatly but should have been playing at LB.
I even heard on radio that if we lose on wednesday the FAI have confirmed his job is 100% safe
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What's Maurice Setters doing these days ? At this rate I'd even have someone like Dave Bassett or Big Ron in... or even Bleesdale that guy who Big Ron was mentoring at Peterborough... Stan is a sham!
Dave O'Leary all the way.
He'll inherit a young squad. During his time at both Leeds and Aston Villa O'Leary can be credited with bringing through a number of highly rated youth players.
He's actually managed a team before. Unlike the "Walsall Waterboy" O'Leary has a decent club record, Leeds lets not forget were in the Champions League Semi-Final and pushing close for the league during his time in charge. Aston Villa fans perhaps realised just how good a job he was doing on a less than show-string budget last season as they struggled even more with Randy Lerners money.
He'll command respect in the dressing room. Arsenals longest serving player during a successful period for the club. Nobody is questioned Stans achievements but O'Leary can add to this his management experience.
David O'Leary couldn't/wouldn't even persuade his own nephew to play for Ireland never mind persuade this lot to play. His record at Leeds wasn't as great as you make out and it was his failure to get them into the Champions League that finished him at Leeds, he also spent huge sums of money on some right turkey's. As a LUFC supporter I would shudder at the thought of him becoming Ireland manager. Anyway why does it have to be an Irish manager? Surely there are good managers out there who would relish a challenge like Ireland.
It is always the same, who will replace Stan. Does it matter he is incapable of managing the Irish team and possibly any team.
I know it won't happen because of the money and Delaney but it is getting more depressing going to games Home and Away.
Stan if you love Irish football leave PLEASE
It is depressing. Paul Hyland in the Herald today was a disgrace.
When we beat Denmark 4-0 the common sense view was "dont overreact" It should be the same when we get a disappointing result.
We've got to be sensible about Stan. Sorry, but some of the suggestions for new manager are a joke.... John Sheridan? Stephen Kenny? Brian Kerr was ridiculed because he hadnt played at the top level, though his management experience had been okay. Stan is ridiculed for not managing before, though his career was second to none. (3 world cups..bit of respect due really...)
So the next manager would minimum have to have excellent management AND playing experience. Nothing short of that is an option after the last two. Even then you cant guarantee anything and he'll be mauled by the media from the first day.
In my opinion the only option is to support Stan and trust that he'll grow into things with the team growing too.
[QUOTE=craig7042;768081]We've got to be sensible about Stan. Sorry, but some of the suggestions for new manager are a joke.... John Sheridan? QUOTE]
In fairness to Staunton, he'd never managed before this and neither have I. If the FAI were to offer me the job, effing rights I'd take it! It's not his fault that they are too cheap to hire a real manager.
John Sheridan intrigues me. At least he's managed before, albeit not at a top level. Oldham were a big club back in the day, granted they are in the third tier of English football.
I honestly don't see anyone good wanting the job - Roy Keane for obvious reasons, why would any exotic foreigner want to put up with the FAI? This is an organization that just told our starting midfielder that his grandmother had died and he needed to fly home immediately, when in fact, his granny is alive and well and now he's unavailable for our most important match in two years.
wrong about Keane? How so
and by the way remind me how many people turned up for his testominial
dont like Kilbane, never did, and I think his performances have proved that he isnt much only a one trick pony ala running with head down and then falling or going over the sideline (but he tries his best)
one good game (re paris, where we should have won) and thats it
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