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    Who else?
    What about Mike Newell?

    I touted him the last time this subject came here's what I wrote:

    What qualities would you look for in an international manager?
    Some have been mentioned above but I'll go through a list and suggest a manager that fills the criteria.

    1. He would probably have to be a free agent so the FAI don't have to pay any compensation.
    2. He needs to have at least several years experience as a manager and a track record to show that he improves with experience.
    3. Not a prerequisite, but it would help if he had some experience playing at a high level.
    4. Media savvy
    5. Previous job's salary similar to or lower than what the FAI can offer
    6. Not an old has been who will be happy to take it as a part-time role before his pension (el Tel)
    7. Able to get results with limited resources.
    8. A proven motivator
    9. Be able to suffer the fools at the FAI

    I might have been a bit selective with the creiteria because I knew who I was going to suggest but it's Mike Newell.

    He's a free agent at the moment, hasn't managed at the highest level so would probably not expect an unreasonable wage. He spent most of his career in the lower leagues but he did win a Premiership medal with Blackburn. He has five years management experience, the first season was a nightmare with Hartlepool but he learned quick and was a big success at Luton with a small squad of 20 players. He could be our Laurie Sanchez.
    The only problem I would see is that he wouldn't suffer the fools at the FAI very lightly and he's a bit unstable

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    mike newell! pfft
    you need someone like this
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    Stephen Kenny would be my pick for Ireland should Stan go/sacked

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    Laurie Sanchez, but doubt he'd leave Fulham for Ireland tbh. So Stephen Kenny would be a good enough choice. **** it, even Roddy Collins would be better than Staunton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by City till I Die View Post
    Stephen Kenny would be my pick for Ireland should Stan go/sacked
    Stephen Kenny is an excellent club manager because he has the ability with time and hard work to get a team extremely fit and playing as a unit.

    An International manager must do this for every game in about 3 days. Do you think Stephen Kenny can do this?

    I don't think so. I think Ireland and any other International team need a very experienced manager that has the respect of players. Who Im not sure. Im sure there are many such managers available if issues were tried. Mick McCarthy was inexperienced, Brian kerr was inexperienced to an extent in that he was used to dealing with part time players and youths and Steve Staunton has close to no experience. That answers a lot of questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman View Post
    Laurie Sanchez, but doubt he'd leave Fulham for Ireland tbh. So Stephen Kenny would be a good enough choice. **** it, even Roddy Collins would be better than Staunton.
    Any manager can use the Sanchez system. 4-5-1 and get EVERYONE behind the ball when you lose it. You concede very little goals as you have 11 defenders when you don't have the ball although you are over reliant on your loan striker and counter attacks.

    I must say I like the idea of Mike Newell , I would rate him very highly and he has an ethical and professional approach.

    I think John Aldridge will get it and maybe he will do ok as he will have the respect of the players and has a decent track record at club level. My own choice would be Damien Richardson
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    john sheridan may be a choice as well.

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    i thought kilbane was his usual. gave the ball away too cheaply. as did carsley. poor irish performance got the result it deserved. staunton should go after this campaign. gibson and douglas subs were unfathomable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finnpark View Post


    Between them the management team have the intellect of Jordan

    That's a terrible slur on a whole country
    Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.

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    just wondering is bobby robson still around and what is his role or influence on what happens on the pitch....... surely if he's still around he must see what a bag of sh*t stan is and surely he must be able to positively influence things given his wealth of experience.... or is he as big a muppet staunton is and happy to rob the the irish football public of what it deserves....football played with pride and passion
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    Noely, what did Hunt say about the US tour? I can't remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Noely, what did Hunt say about the US tour? I can't remember.
    Stuttgart it was to do with the non-selection of his brother Noel to the travelling squad for the US games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finnpark View Post
    I think John Aldridge will get it and maybe he will do ok as he will have the respect of the players and has a decent track record at club level. My own choice would be Damien Richardson
    John Aldridge was on Sky Sports this morning as part of their panel analysing yesterday's games. He was asked if he would ever go back into football management and he just said that he had didn't think he would and that he had enough of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M. View Post
    John Aldridge was on Sky Sports this morning as part of their panel analysing yesterday's games. He was asked if he would ever go back into football management and he just said that he had didn't think he would and that he had enough of it.
    I wonder why he's had enough when saps ludicrously treat managers the way we've treated Stan.

    The Stan debate is over in my view. The papers changed their tone this week and it was good for everyone. Stan has done good things. I've spoken throughout this campaign about them on my blog.

    The simple truth is that we arent good enough at this time. All this talk of tactics and substitutions and player's positions is stupidness. Anyone notice that Benitez put Finnan left back for Liverpool the other week?? No I doubt it. Cause it shows that Stan has the cop on to know (like benitez) that these things arent black and white like Dunphy thinks it is.

    We are short as a team. Some players are still too young. Some arent good enough, but they are the best we have at the moment in terms of experience (Carsley,Kilbane,O'Shea). All of them have good spirit and so are worthy of a bit more respect. But we're just short at the end of the day. We couldnt close the game out and keep possession. That'll catch up with us.

    I'd just love us to pull one out of the bag and beat Czech, but I think its a case of waiting to see how the next campaign goes at this stage.
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    The only way I can see us beating the Czechs is if we scored a lucky goal in the last minute because I don't think we are capable of holding onto a lead away from home at the moment.
    As for those saying why doesn't McShane get stick for the first goal like JOSH did for the 2nd, its because McShane may make mistakes but at least he doesn't pussy out of challenges like JOSH, they way he turned away from that ball is unforgivable and he definitely deserves to be dropped for the next game, I'd be surprised it Stan did though. Also, people blame McShane for the Czech equalizer but it was Josh needlessly giving away a free kick that lead to that goal so JOSH was at least 50% responsible for that goal too.

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    TP, your mood swings have been quite extreme lately. You ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig7042 View Post
    I wonder why he's had enough when saps ludicrously treat managers the way we've treated Stan.

    The Stan debate is over in my view. The papers changed their tone this week and it was good for everyone. Stan has done good things. I've spoken throughout this campaign about them on my blog.

    The simple truth is that we arent good enough at this time. All this talk of tactics and substitutions and player's positions is stupidness. Anyone notice that Benitez put Finnan left back for Liverpool the other week?? No I doubt it. Cause it shows that Stan has the cop on to know (like benitez) that these things arent black and white like Dunphy thinks it is.

    We are short as a team. Some players are still too young. Some arent good enough, but they are the best we have at the moment in terms of experience (Carsley,Kilbane,O'Shea). All of them have good spirit and so are worthy of a bit more respect. But we're just short at the end of the day. We couldnt close the game out and keep possession. That'll catch up with us.

    I'd just love us to pull one out of the bag and beat Czech, but I think its a case of waiting to see how the next campaign goes at this stage.

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    Good post, time to face facts, took 4 points off a side that qualified for the last wc, we don't have the players at the minute.....I reckon our day is coming!

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    Andy Reid quoted in today's when asked how he felt about not playing on Saturday "..He decides so you have to accept it, even if you don't like it.." so once Stan reads that you can guarantee he won't pick Reid....

    IMo we were never going to win two away games on the bounce...and a win on satuday and a draw on wed wasn't going to be a great help ....so based on irrational optomism and the law of averages I reckon we'll win on Wed... lose to the Germans , beat Cyprus and then need a win in wales to qualify... and of course blow that by conceeding a late goal... finish third and Delaney will keep his pet muppet in a job based on his view that Stan is a world class manager when it comes to managing property innvestments.

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    I'm personally of the opinion that he should be given until the end of this campaign and if we fail to qualify (which is by far the most likely outcome now) he should be definitely sent packing.

    His decisions were shocking on Saturday. That game was easier to win than draw. His starting line up, tactics and substitutions all combined to cost us the three points agaisnt an obviously very poor team.

    Its glaringly obvious that he's out of his depth. When are the FAI going to learn to stop cutting corners when choosing managers?
    Last edited by youngirish; 10/09/2007 at 9:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig7042 View Post
    The simple truth is that we arent good enough at this time. All this talk of tactics and substitutions and player's positions is stupidness.
    So you think that questioning the substitution which introduced Douglas instead of Reid is "stupidness"?

    I have no problem with Ireland losing, if we are beaten by a better team. The quality of the players from which you can choose your national side is not something you can do much about. It will always go up and down for any international side.

    I have a problem with us losing because our manager is not good enough, and makes decisions he should not make, decisions which influence results.
    Because that is something we CAN do something about.


    Quote Originally Posted by craig7042 View Post
    The Stan debate is over in my view.
    Your blinkered view.
    Last edited by osarusan; 10/09/2007 at 10:24 AM.

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