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    Quote Originally Posted by as_i_say View Post
    Some people need to get off their Kilbane hating horse. If john o shea had a even a tenth of his commitment or desire then we'd be sorted for a left back.

    How many times did he give atrocious backpasses to given. How many outrageously poor games has he played for Ireland yet continues to get picked?

    Kilbanes delivery was poor and I have to say I wouldnt have started him tonight but you can always depend on him to contribute SOMETHING positive in a game.
    If you look back on the posts noone said they hated Kilbane. We just sai Hunt was a better option which he was simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scram View Post
    Is there anyone who argues with the fact that this was a display of total incompetence by Stunton and he must go?
    Not me, he's an idiot. still can't believe what happened there tonight
    Interviewer: “Bang, there goes your unbeaten run. Can you take it?”

    Gordon Strachan: “No, I’m just going to crumble like a wreck. I’ll go home, become an alcoholic and maybe jump off a bridge.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia View Post
    Take a step back & compare Kilbane's career with Hunts. It must be me & every premiership manager that has a non existant knowledge of football so.

    Of course I know Kilbane is not world class. However he played pretty well tonight, better than most & Hunt has done sweet FA for Ireland to date. I hope that changes, but that is the fact.

    What are you talking about. Hunt has been excellent when given his chance. He wasnt given his chance tonight and I think its a travisty. He isnt world class either but he can deliver decent ball intot he box. Im not going to get into an argument with you my opinion will be the same.

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    Its hurts to say this but if we dont beat the Czechs i really really hope we get well beaten by the Czechs and hope that it makes Stans position unattenable(which the Cyprus result should have done). We are going to be low seeds to the World cup qualifiers so having that muppet in charge will be disaster and in my opinion could damage us for years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia View Post
    Well he's not - what has he to offer ?
    He has a lot to offer ireland. he's young(ish) , hungry, has good ideas, attacks defences, great distribution from the wing, and pops up with the odd goal, whicj i'm sure he would do with ireland if given the chance. Don't be knocking the chap just in defence of KK. he's a fantastic player and should have played tonight full stop. i'm not the only person who thinks it either, the majority does
    Interviewer: “Bang, there goes your unbeaten run. Can you take it?”

    Gordon Strachan: “No, I’m just going to crumble like a wreck. I’ll go home, become an alcoholic and maybe jump off a bridge.”

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    Calls for his head now are not premature by any means. He has proved that he has no clue, he cannot learn from what he does right never mind what he does wrong.

    The "Carlsley" debacle was the first instance when despite 100% calls for him to be in the squad, Muppet Staunton insisted that he won't be....until foced to call him in. Now he is first choice.

    All that sh!te with Terry Dixon, Joseph Lapira and now Darren Gibson....all cases of Staunton childishly trying to prove some stupid point that he is his own man..he is his a Muppet, and unfortunately, our Muppet.

    About 100% of "pundits" appear to agree that Reid should have started tonight and most certainly should have been on for McGeady at half time who did not perform.

    It is not premature to call for his head, it is too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketballs7 View Post
    He has a lot to offer ireland. he's young(ish) , hungry, has good ideas, attacks defences, great distribution from the wing, and pops up with the odd goal, whicj i'm sure he would do with ireland if given the chance. Don't be knocking the chap just in defence of KK. he's a fantastic player and should have played tonight full stop. i'm not the only person who thinks it either, the majority does
    YOUNG - he is about 26 & has had one full season in the top division. How can he be fantastic ? Ronaldo is fantastic, Duff was (& I hope will be again ) fantastic.

    Reading did great as new boys last year, but this year will test the teams true quality. He might well find himself back in the lower leagues - I genuinely hope this is not where he belongs. But it is where he has been.

    The majority of who thinks he is fansastic, not those that matter like premiership managers.

    Having said that you make a reasonable point about the chance he has had for Ireland, then again he was total s**t in the States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia View Post
    YOUNG - he is about 26 & has had one full season in the top division. How can he be fantastic ? Ronaldo is fantastic, Duff was (& I hope will be again ) fantastic.

    Reading did great as new boys last year, but this year will test the teams true quality. He might well find himself back in the lower leagues - I genuinely hope this is not where he belongs. But it is where he has been.

    The majority of who thinks he is fansastic, not those that matter like premiership managers.

    Having said that you make a reasonable point about the chance he has had for Ireland, then again he was total s**t in the States.
    ok fair enough, he may not be of ronaldo's class, or duff's about 5 years ago(except for the slovakia home game) , but what he has done in the ireland games he has played in ( particularly wales - although i may add that this rubbish wales team, and they are rubbish, may stand in the way of us and qualification) has been particularly impressive. im a firm believer that a man going forward has a major advantage against the player he's attacking going backwards, and hunt is one of the few along with mcGeady when he pulls his finger out, that can do this for ireland
    Interviewer: “Bang, there goes your unbeaten run. Can you take it?”

    Gordon Strachan: “No, I’m just going to crumble like a wreck. I’ll go home, become an alcoholic and maybe jump off a bridge.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketballs7 View Post
    ok fair enough, he may not be of ronaldo's class, or duff's about 5 years ago(except for the slovakia home game) , but what he has done in the ireland games he has played in ( particularly wales - although i may add that this rubbish wales team, and they are rubbish, may stand in the way of us and qualification) has been particularly impressive. im a firm believer that a man going forward has a major advantage against the player he's attacking going backwards, and hunt is one of the few along with mcGeady when he pulls his finger out, that can do this for ireland
    ...and I'd certainly have stuck hin on tonight instead of a defensive midfielder. Reid would have been my first choice as sub, then Hunt. I think we would have won if either came on instead of Douglas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scram View Post
    Calls for his head now are not premature by any means. He has proved that he has no clue, he cannot learn from what he does right never mind what he does wrong.

    The "Carlsley" debacle was the first instance when despite 100% calls for him to be in the squad, Muppet Staunton insisted that he won't be....until foced to call him in. Now he is first choice.

    All that sh!te with Terry Dixon, Joseph Lapira and now Darren Gibson....all cases of Staunton childishly trying to prove some stupid point that he is his own man..he is his a Muppet, and unfortunately, our Muppet.

    About 100% of "pundits" appear to agree that Reid should have started tonight and most certainly should have been on for McGeady at half time who did not perform.

    It is not premature to call for his head, it is too late.
    Is there now anyone who thinks Stan should not go (Delaney too, but that won't happen)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia View Post
    ...and I'd certainly have stuck hin on tonight instead of a defensive midfielder. Reid would have been my first choice as sub, then Hunt. I think we would have won if either came on instead of Douglas.
    agreed, pity the F**king arsehole of a 'gaffer' has'nt a clue
    Interviewer: “Bang, there goes your unbeaten run. Can you take it?”

    Gordon Strachan: “No, I’m just going to crumble like a wreck. I’ll go home, become an alcoholic and maybe jump off a bridge.”

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    I was exchanging high-fives with my fellow Irishmen here in Blagoevgrad when I returned to the computer and saw the all-too-familiar words... 'Disaster for Ireland'.

    Should Stan go? He shoudn't have been given the job in the first place, but he's contracted for the next two years. No amount of bitching by us, or the (by now cliched) throwaway results will make the FAI admit they were wrong and part with the euros in compensation to Mr. Staunton. I think we're stuck with him, come what may.

    In the meantime, let's just offer up our prayers. The ghosts of John Atyeo, Wim Keift, Goran Stravevski and that Israeli/Arab lad from 2005 are shrieking tonight. However, I'm in Bulgaria at the moment, and the locals were actually laughing cynically at their team, cheering the goals that they conceded and making jokes about how bad they were, during their defeat to Holland. If I ever go that way about Ireland, shoot me. No, wait, torture me, then hack my head off with a rusty bread-knife. I can't believe these people's pessimism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme feet View Post

    Should Stan go? He shoudn't have been given the job in the first place, but he's contracted for the next two years. No amount of bitching by us, or the (by now cliched) throwaway results will make the FAI admit they were wrong and part with the euros in compensation to Mr. Staunton. I think we're stuck with him, come what may.
    If he had the balls and dignity he had as a player he would walk.

    ... & hand back the wages he has been paid to date.

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    what should happen in an ideal world is the fai should line up a replacement of quality before sacking stan. as opposed to getting rid of him and leaving the team in limbo for a while.

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    As others and the pundits on the box have said not having Reid and Hunt on at some stage was a joke. The Gibson substitution looked like stunt. All in all he is a fool, the sooner he goes the better, if he'd any self respect he quit!



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    If he had the balls and dignity he had as a player he would walk.
    Yeah, but as a player, he was a stubborn f*cker too. He never gave up on lost causes. I even remember him playing in central midfield against Portugal in the rout of '95 in Lisbon. Central midfield? Maybe that's why his thoughts are so ambiguous and misguided about that position.

    And lads, don't be harsh on Gibson. He will be a great player for Ireland, it's just too soon for him. Owen Garvan only played 45 minutes for the 21's last night, and he's had much more competitive experience than Gibson.

    Can't wait for the day we see Garvan and Gibson together in the Irish midfield! Of course, if and when that happens (2011?), no-one will remember my little post here, on this long-forgotten, horrible day. Sob...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme feet View Post
    And lads, don't be harsh on Gibson. He will be a great player for Ireland, it's just too soon for him. Owen Garvan only played 45 minutes for the 21's last night, and he's had much more competitive experience than Gibson.
    Agreed, but on that note, why is Gibson even in the squad? will be a player for the future, no doubt, but was it a stunt for the FAI, IFA arguement? i would like to think that it definately was'nt but nothing surprises me with stan, i'm very disapointed with him at the moment............................again
    Interviewer: “Bang, there goes your unbeaten run. Can you take it?”

    Gordon Strachan: “No, I’m just going to crumble like a wreck. I’ll go home, become an alcoholic and maybe jump off a bridge.”

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    I will admit to being a hypocrite - I was furious with the Terry Dixon/Joe Lapira affairs, but I think Gibson's different. He's Irish, for a start (I love being mischievous!), and he seems to have a real future in the game - in a position that hasn't been effectively filled since Townsend, Sheridan and Keane. I wouldn't play someone on the basis of potential alone, but Gibson will have learned a lot from tonight. Which is more than can be said for Staunton.
    Last edited by Supreme feet; 08/09/2007 at 11:11 PM.

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    It just seems futile.

    Sack Staunton, get a new manager and still f*ck up in the last minute. I just don't know anymore.
    I think I should the parachute, because I'm great.

    In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketballs7 View Post
    Agreed, but on that note, why is Gibson even in the squad? will be a player for the future, no doubt, but was it a stunt for the FAI, IFA arguement? i would like to think that it definately was'nt but nothing surprises me with stan, i'm very disapointed with him at the moment............................again
    Well the whole gibson mess was probably meant to have been sorted out away to San Marino. He was in the squad and the management were probably going to give him a few minutes run out once we were a few goals clear, but marani had other ideas...

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