QuoteSorry, but I don't see what you're getting at...?
http://www.stpatsfc.com/report.php?report=93Originally Posted by Soper
Attendance: 1,077
That was a night when noone else was playing.
Sorry, but I don't see what you're getting at...?
I'm just showing that even EL die hearts don't seem to go and watch an EL game not involving their own team. A tiny percentage of games is made up by neutrals. I'm a neutral but I've been to Richmond Park plenty of times.
Yeah, but I wouldn't really expect a Bohs fan to do that, just like I wouldn't expect a Rangers fan to see Celtic.
Because it's the only team I can support, which El team should I support Longford, Monaghan? I have no link to these places.
True but what he was getting at is that while you may have no links to these places and thats fair enough but other people saying that as a reason and then turn round and support teams in Liverpool Manchester and Glasgow is absurd really
indeed it is. will never understand it. irish season ticket holders for man u or celtic or whatever.
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I don't think that EL supporters have a divine right to support Ireland and everyone else is a glory hunting fraud. Hypothetically, a fella from Cavan (probably too cheap to go to away games anyway) who is he supposed to support? Cavan people aren't to pushed about Monaghan, so thhhat is United out of the question, everyone who's not a dub hates the dubs, so that rules out Pat's, Boh's, Shamrock Rovers. Realistically, this hypothetical Cavan man is more likely to support the five time European champions Liverpool or the well marketed, sectarianspoitating Celtic than any Eircom club.
Personally, I am an American, I spent 3 months out of every year in Monaghan since I was born and I'm fairly fond of making a few trips to Century Homes, but at the end of the day, Ireland is the only team in my heart because of the stories the old boy told me about Giles, Bonner, Hughton and other players he watched. United were elected to the league the year he left Ireland for new york, so he could give a toss about them
"No regrets, none at all. My only regret is that we went out on penalties. That's my only regret. But no, no regrets." -Mick McCarthy
As kids a lot of people take up an interest in various sports, association football being one of the more popular ones in Ireland.
These kids play, train, win, lose etc. with their local club and build an affinity to that club (it could be anything from Rivervalley Rangers to Tooreendohenybeg Utd), most of these clubs are in Junior soccer.
Fact: There is no real link between the Junior clubs and the commercial senior eL association football teams in Ireland. In contrast the GAA allows seamless progress of support from club to county and players play with multiple teams so a kid has thru, their local GAA team an immediate link and thus affinity with the larger, higher level county teams.
At the same time the kids like to watch football on television, have posters on their walls - this means MOTD, Super Sunday etc., that's what's on TV, what's in the newsagents and so they build an affinity with an association football team that they see regularly and start to hope that team wins games, thus building into a supporter of that team. The fact that this team happens to be in England or Scotland is just a fact. When the promotion of the eL is better this may change, but it's an uphill battle. Hearts and Minds! This is the same reason there are many ManU supporters in London, Plymouth etc. the power of the media. It's not just the eL that have this problem.
Anyway back to the discussion and the "right" of non-eL supporting people to attend Irish games. Many of these people play, watch and support association football teams, albeit at a Junior level. I find it insulting and quite narrow minded that you feel in order to be a supporter of the Irish association football team you must be a supporter of an eL team. Many of the supporters are in fact actively involved in Junior association football. Can we attend? Do we have to bring our Bohs membership cards? Do you have to support a senior football team to attend Irish games?
Unless their paents are eL supporters and brring them to games or they happen to live close to a eL club or ground they are unlikely to progress to supporting an eL team.
How much time did the 4th official hold up for injury time? I heard 2 minutes but the second goal came after 4 and a half.
"Jacques Santini...will be greeted in every dugout of the country by "one-nil, one-nil" - Clive Tyldsley, 89th minute of France-England June 13, 2004.
"Ooooohhhh Nooooooo" Bobby Robson 91st minute.
I'm not sure but I hope against all hope that they are the 2 points that get us qualified. We lost out on qualifaction a few times in the past due to dodgy ref decisions so it's the least we deserve
By the way I dont support any clubs, can't create a feeling of attachment. Have to say I don't understand how people adopt teams to support, if it's not in your heart then you can't make yourself support someone.
Sadly there were 4 minutes time added on, guess the other 30 secs was for stoppages in stoppage time. No conspiracy there.I'm not sure but I hope against all hope that they are the 2 points that get us qualified. We lost out on qualifaction a few times in the past due to dodgy ref decisions so it's the least we deserve
You might have heard something about the TV feed clock freezing at one point.
The clock ran incorrectly and it was a minute fast so it threw people off a bit and I've heard some discussion about it on other boards.
Basically 4 minutes were added on, and Ireland's goal came before that 4 minutes ran out, but the TV feed showed that it was into the 5th minute due to their TV clock error.
The groundsman at Croke Park is worried about the state of the pitch after the Rugby match "I'll need to fertilise this pitch to get it up to standard!".
Steve Staunton replies "Don't worry, I'll be putting a pile of crap on it in March"
tv3 muppets. tv3 out!
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Ah now, we've got rising stars Cian Mackey and Khalid Hussain who are both from Cavan in our squad this season, all Cavanmen are welcome at CHP.
Sorry folks, but I cannot get last week's fiasco out of my head.
I read this news story about Vanuatu today and immediately thought "where are they in the FIFA rankings".
Believe it or not they are 26 places higher than San Marino.
If San Marino are a "handful" then Stan probably thinks a away point against Vanuatu would be a good result.
Together with all our hearts.
In case you havent seen the glory that is our defence yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBdf7ANvs4s
Can anyone translate what the commentator is saying
Oh Holy mother of God, that's far worse than the view I had of it (from the far end).
The commentator says something like "With four minutes to go, Murani found himself up against keeper Henderson, who screwed up badly, and Murani hit it in the direction of the net, and it was in. The first goal for San Marino in the campaign; 1-1 in the 86th minute. So close to their first ever point in a qualification game. Shocking error from Henderson; in total, the fifth goal for San Marino..."
It's in German, for some reason.
Are the Irish goals up anywhere?
Edit - tell you what, though - good finish. (That video's like a car wreck...can't stop watching it...)
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