BB Croker letters

**Newryrep** · 13/02/2007, 3:14 PM

The words stable door and horse bolted spring to mind.

Overall this is not man on the moon - these problems were all predictable

**Bluetonic** · 13/02/2007, 3:20 PM

Just incase anyone is wondering about how many tickets there were, its approx

31,000 50 euro tickets
28,000 70 euro tickets

**WexDec** · 13/02/2007, 3:24 PM

....one little caveat about our applications is that we (besides one upper tier request) physically put them in together with a note asking to be grouped if possible. Possibly this will happen for myself and another guy very close in the 1,900s who each got 3 Lower Cusack but next guy got lower Hogan. Point is possibly that might've helped the guys further on the list but seems overall we were simply blessed to opt for the lower tier.

I did have some suspicion that this nightmare scenario could be possible when there was no "permission to allocate alternatively priced seats" option as there ALWAYS is in lottery / advanced sale type football ticket applications. Going for lower tier seemed safer since giving us cheaper seats than chosen shouldn't need such permission if lower tier sold out. I think the 1,900s would've got sorted anyway but I'd reckon the last 1-2k on the list would've missed out by the 2-4ks being offered their alternative seats but that makes sense and would be fairer. Saying all that I never expected it to pan out like that just thought there was deffo a risk of it esp given previous form. I think they've f*cked up an unf*ckupable situation to be honest.

**antrimgreen** · 13/02/2007, 3:59 PM

Originally Posted by Istabraq

Thats a load of crap. What is the point of a waiting list if people behind you get offered tickets and you dont. I have been talking to people who asked for upper hogan, but got offered lower davin, and accepted. I too would have accepted any ticket. I requested 4 from around pos 3,500 and got fa. 2 for davin would have done me. I also would have bought 2 at 70 euro. Im not fussy, but im very ****ed off at this shambles of a process. Doesnt really surprise me when it comes to the fai. Theyre a disgrace of an organisation.

100% Istabraq totally agree, the FAI are a mess, i remember a certain ex player once stating this how right was he. Completley gutted not to have got at least 1 ticket, i couldn't give a sh1te if i knew no-one around me, i just wanted to go. Waiting list should have been called lottery list.

**paul_oshea** · 13/02/2007, 4:05 PM

just keep an eye out on here lads coming up to the matches, im sure someone will have spares in the end. i might myself yet, not sure.

but i do know of one lad who got 10 and was around the 2K mark on the waiting list, granted he was gettting them for people, but these ppl go to fcek all matches, its not really fair.

**elroy** · 13/02/2007, 4:42 PM

Originally Posted by Istabraq

Thats a load of crap. What is the point of a waiting list if people behind you get offered tickets and you dont. I have been talking to people who asked for upper hogan, but got offered lower davin, and accepted. I too would have accepted any ticket. I requested 4 from around pos 3,500 and got fa. 2 for davin would have done me. I also would have bought 2 at 70 euro. Im not fussy, but im very ****ed off at this shambles of a process. Doesnt really surprise me when it comes to the fai. Theyre a disgrace of an organisation.

Hang in there Istabraq all is not lost yet. Im well ****ed off with the FAI as well cos was looking forward to have tickets guaranteed for a change but I think there is still a reasonable chance we'll get sorted. Tickets for the slovakia I doubt will be too hard to come by and with a bit of luck we'll get sorted for wales as well.

**gspain** · 13/02/2007, 5:25 PM

Did the people on thew Waiting list who did not get tickets take them for all the friendlies?

**WexDec** · 13/02/2007, 6:10 PM

It transpired from previous discussions that approximately only the first 1,800 on the waiting list were ever offered friendly tickets and expected to take them to maintain their list position (I'm presuming the last bit)

**Schumi** · 13/02/2007, 8:17 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

i do know of one lad who got 10

10??? That's ridiculous with some people getting none.

**highlight100** · 13/02/2007, 8:47 PM

If there was a big concert on in Croke Park tickets would be probably limited to 4 per person to give as many genuine fans a chance of going but it seems with the FAI a lot of people got to buy as many tickets as they liked to do with what they liked.

**antrimgreen** · 14/02/2007, 8:16 AM

The protocol used for ticket distribution by the FAI, looks like it has been generated by a bunch of children at primary school. How people can get 10 and six is uneal, my gripe is that they have got tickets and will give them to people who are not on the waiting list which means the some people on the waiting list are left feeling like they have being taken clean up the b*m...

**paul_oshea** · 14/02/2007, 9:52 AM

10??? That's ridiculous with some people getting none

i know, he is a good mate and his uncle has been a block booker for 15 years or so, he always got tickets for matches, but its not fair i agree!

tickets and will give them to people who are not on the waiting list which means the some people on the waiting list are left feeling like they have being taken clean up the b*m

ya well that is the case fora few of the tickets my mate is sorting ppl out with, but at teh same time these wouldn't have been aware of a waiting list, nor would they use the internet that often.

**WexDec** · 14/02/2007, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by antrimgreen

The protocol used for ticket distribution by the FAI, looks like it has been generated by a bunch of children at primary school. How people can get 10 and six is uneal, my gripe is that they have got tickets and will give them to people who are not on the waiting list which means the some people on the waiting list are left feeling like they have being taken clean up the b*m...

Sorry mate but I have to take great umbrage with that statement. I think its bang out of order to insult the intelligence of primary school children like that. In fairness they'd have done a lot better and in true primary school style just copied an existing system (another organisation's homework) that actually worked. They'd also have an innocent sense of the fairness of a queue - make sure everybody is at least sorted out with original request rather than having a first come, first served have as many as you like and feck those behind you system.

I think the FAI has studied how people queue for buses, the tried and trusted free for all approach.

(above rant reminds me of the Gift Grub "Brownies" incident

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**WexDec** · 14/02/2007, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Schumi

10??? That's ridiculous with some people getting none.

Remember the line in the original application form that said only make "reasonable" requests........vaguely......or was it realistic ? Either way was bullsh*t.

Someone had joked before (might've been on different forum though) about the time Homer Simpson was second in a queue and the first guy bought all 5,000 tickets......prophetic !

**WexDec** · 14/02/2007, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

at the same time these wouldn't have been aware of a waiting list, nor would they use the internet that often.

Is that really relevant ? We all live in the same world and most people would've found out about the list by word of mouth (getting an e-mail or text from your mate counts these days) or by actually trying to sus out if there was a waiting list and how you got yourself on it. That could've been done by phoning them, snail mailing them or asking at the TO. For years I was unaware that there was a waiting list and thought the whole BB setup was a closed shop presumably via clubs. Once I found out myself I let my mates know who I always go to friendlies and unglamourous competitive matches with. Takes a bit of proactive interest in the first place before you "find out" about the list. Granted there was probably a deluge coming up to the prospect of Croker and a realistic chance of getting precious tickets (its more likely over 6k now if they've closed the list down).

No point in having a waiting list if someone can essentially hold the place in the queue for his 9 mates. If that happened in a physical queue outside a ticket office for anything, 9 lads joining up midstream just before the sale started, there'd be agro no doubt. Not knowing there was a queue is hardly a valid excuse.

Anyway at least the lads getting the tickets are fans and they're not going on eBay. Although you'd think your mate would've told them to get their name down on the list in the first place as he was obviously was aware of it, internet or not, as they'll get nought for LR (unless the FAI do the same again !). Not blaming them just the nonsense system, sorry.

**Newryrep** · 14/02/2007, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by WexDec

No point in having a waiting list if someone can essentially hold the place in the queue for his 9 mates. If that happened in a physical queue outside a ticket office for anything, 9 lads joining up midstream just before the sale started, there'd be agro no doubt. Not knowing there was a queue is hardly a valid excuse.

Anyway at least the lads getting the tickets are fans and they're not going on eBay. Although you'd think your mate would've told them to get their name down on the list in the first place as he was obviously was aware of it, internet or not, as they'll get nought for LR (unless the FAI do the same again !). Not blaming them just the nonsense system, sorry.

WexDec , in principle i dont have a problem with this if when he went on the waiting list asking for 10 tickets but it practice it probably should be limited to 4 max to prevent touting.

No point in having a waiting list if circa 20K can get tickets off their mates for the games at Croke Park.

They could retrieve the situation by having the current ticketing arrangements only valid for the next 4 games. I dont think anybody could justifiably complain.

tickets get offered as per the logical way as described previously, BB, waiting listers with previously requested No of tickets , with preferred availability options etc as any other organisation would do

However i wouldnt hold my breath

**Bluetonic** · 14/02/2007, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Newryrep

They could retrieve the situation by having the current ticketing arrangements only valid for the next 4 games. I dont think anybody could justifiably complain.

tickets get offered as per the logical way as described previously, BB, waiting listers with previously requested No of tickets , with preferred availability options etc as any other organisation would do

However i wouldnt hold my breath

I don't know how many time this has to be said but this WILL be the case.

**Newryrep** · 14/02/2007, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Bluetonic

I don't know how many time this has to be said but this WILL be the case.

BT i was refering to the next 4 games. I assume the current ticketing arrangement are for all the games at Croke Park over the next 3-4 years.

**galwayhoop** · 14/02/2007, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Bluetonic

The amount offered to those on the waiting list should be the same as what they've originally applied for when joining the list, thats the only fair way. Otherwise it makes a mockery of asking people how many tickets they require when joining the list. Someone on the waiting list 5 years looking for 3 tickets should never be offered 2 tickets. The list is there for a reason - to prioritise people and their requests not to give everyone the same spread.

of course you are right.

i said 2 becasuse that is what i was on waiting list for. but you're right just fairly distribute the tickets as per the amount requested and as per the list in numerilogical (sp?) order

as for people getting 10 and others not getting any or not being accomodiated in other parts of the groumd - the mind boggles

BTW how many BB's (actual number not individual posters!!) were receiving tickets in the 'old' landsdowne

**Bluetonic** · 14/02/2007, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Newryrep

BT i was refering to the next 4 games. I assume the current ticketing arrangement are for all the games at Croke Park over the next 3-4 years.

I wasn't aware of any games being scheduled in Croke Park after 2007.