Shelbourne FC Demoted to First Division - All Purpose Thread

**SligoBrewer** · 30/01/2007, 6:40 PM

Originally Posted by Soper

Jesus wept, yet another delay to the season now when our board will protest this decision.

the long awaited return to winter soccer!

lads, this is a load of bo**ocks seriously..

were we invited..
i doubt it somehow

**kdjaC** · 30/01/2007, 6:42 PM

Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

its a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarce

FAIreland,
80 Merrion Square,
Dublin 2,
Ireland

If coming from northside stop off on Moore street for some lighters with flint, 5 for a euro or so.

kdjac

**Dodge** · 30/01/2007, 6:46 PM

Originally Posted by red bellied

Same as everything with the FAI, make it up as they go along.

Not just the FAI involved here...

**red bellied** · 30/01/2007, 6:48 PM

Originally Posted by charliesboots

apparently the rules have been ammended since last season, not **** stirring, that's just what i'm hearing!

This sound very dodgy. If true Sligo Rovers would of have to been consulted on this based on last seasons placements (with Shels predicament) and never would of agreed.

**Dodge** · 30/01/2007, 6:51 PM

That makes no sense at all mate.... re-read and re-write if possible

**harpskid** · 30/01/2007, 6:51 PM

Originally Posted by Sniffer

The season hasn't even started yet. I've had to design a special close season asterisk

Very like the old asterix though - very poor effort at asterix design!

**Sniffer** · 30/01/2007, 6:56 PM

Yet another wasted rush job

**charliesboots** · 30/01/2007, 6:58 PM

why would they have to have been consulted? It's a tournament run by its own committee under the jurisdiction of both the IFA and FAI. The rules are drawn up by the committee who then ask the relevant body to invite participants. No consultation needed with anybody - its not as if clubs are affiliated with the Setanta Cup the way they are with the League or FAI

**ccfcgirl** · 30/01/2007, 6:59 PM

Its a big blow to Shelbourne Football club and especially there fans that they pulled out of Setanta...

**R�iteoir** · 30/01/2007, 7:01 PM

Originally Posted by charliesboots

why would they have to have been consulted? It's a tournament run by its own committee under the jurisdiction of both the IFA and FAI. The rules are drawn up by the committee who then ask the relevant body to invite participants. No consultation needed with anybody - its not as if clubs are affiliated with the Setanta Cup the way they are with the League or FAI

Plus it's an Invitational Tournament - it's up to the committee who they invite

**Sniffer** · 30/01/2007, 7:13 PM

Can't remember where my rule book is, but this suggests that Sligo Rovers should be in.

**charliesboots** · 30/01/2007, 7:15 PM

Originally Posted by Sniffer

Can't remember where my rule book is, but this suggests that Sligo Rovers should be in.

But sure I could change that now if I pleased...hardly a hard source to rely on!!

**Sniffer** · 30/01/2007, 7:20 PM

Agreed, but the best on offer at the moment; hence 'suggests'

**Hibs4Ever** · 30/01/2007, 7:23 PM

Originally Posted by pete

Shels must be in dire straits if they pulling out of that as guaranteed cash just for competing.

Was looking forward to beating Shels live on tv again at the cross. Pats just doesn't have the same appeal & crowd will be smaller...

Would LOVE to know how you come to this conclusion!!

**bohs til i die** · 30/01/2007, 7:27 PM

Originally Posted by David

Very sad to see the demise of Shelbourne. I appreciate that you will all know a lot more of the ins and outs of this one than I do and may not feel the same sympathy towrds them but they were a team that I always enjoyed watching when they were on TV and their CL run a few seasons ago was certainly memorable. Feel really sorry for the Shelbourne supporters. I sincerely hope things can be sorted out.

David

The reason people have little sympathy for Shels is simple. They were spending money that everybody knew they hadnt got, they were spending money taking every issue that went against them to arbitration/court/tribunal in order to win the titles, they spent money trying to keep players even though they werent paying them [and losing a fortune at the same time] and they have the most gullible bunch of idiots supporting them who had too much faith in Ollie Byrne and were not prepared to believe what everyone told them over the past 5 years.

In May 2005, a group of Shels fans held up a banner with "J�A�OU$" written on it because they had signed 3 Bohs players they couldnt afford. I wonder who is Jealous now.

If what I am hearing is true, next season's fixture list wont contain Shelbourne. I for one wont shed a tear although I will regret not having one last chance to gloat.

As Bohs Partisan says elwewhere, a few more team north and south of the border and we'll have an all-Ireland league before w eknow it, bring it on.

**Sniffer** · 30/01/2007, 7:28 PM

Originally Posted by Fintan Cassidy

from the 2007 Setanta Cup Regulations:

Entry Process
The Tournament shall be on invitational basis only and invitations shall be issued by
both Associations to four clubs under their jurisdiction taking into account the following sporting criteria listed in order of priority:

Clubs under the jurisdiction of the FAI:
� 2006 season Premier Division League championship winners.
� 2006 season FAI Cup winners. In the event of a club winning the Premier Division League championship and the FAI Cup, then the runner-up club in the FAI Cup shall be invited.
� 2006 season League Cup winners.
� 2006 season Premier Division League championship runners-up.

In the event of a club(s) qualifying to receive an invitation under two or more of the above listed criteria or a club(s) failing to meet other specified criteria in the regulations, then the invitation(s) shall be issued to the next highest placed club(s) in the final 2006 season Premier Division League championship table.

Clubs under the jurisdiction of the IFA:
� 2005/06 season Premier Division League championship winners.
� 2006 IFA Cup winners. In the event of a club winning the Premier Division League championship and the IFA Cup, then the runner-up club in the IFA Cup shall be invited.
� 2005/06 season CIS Cup winners.
� 2005/06 season Premier Division League championship runners-up.

In the event of a club(s) qualifying to receive an invitation under two or more of the above listed criteria or a club(s) failing to meet other specified criteria in the regulations, then the invitation(s) shall be issued to the next highest placed club(s) in the final 2005/06 season Premier Division League championship table.

Clear as...

**Dodge** · 30/01/2007, 7:31 PM

Obviously means Shels stripped of league

**Sniffer** · 30/01/2007, 7:31 PM

Derry City won the FAI Cup but not the league, so the FAI Cup runners up shouldn't qualify. Unless... the Setanta committee are promoting City to the league winners spot in lieu of Shels.

**Sniffer** · 30/01/2007, 7:32 PM

A dead heat

**SligoBrewer** · 30/01/2007, 7:49 PM

Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

shels wont lose their title so derry wont go in 2 it as champions...

they'll be promoted to the champions league but they wont have won the league

therefore.. the place is ours is it not?

Shels wont be stripped of the title..
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo......

Logic determines that the place is ours

Originally Posted by Old Fogies

Look Before You Leap

Typical Irish football