Shelbourne FC Demoted to First Division - All Purpose Thread

**paul_oshea** · 02/02/2007, 4:30 PM

that rhymes just like:
you, me and dupree.

**Student Mullet** · 02/02/2007, 4:31 PM

Originally Posted by holidaysong

I'm more worried about how this has messed up my betting on the Setanta Cup!

True,
Cork were a shoe in for their group. Now I've probably thrown a tenner away on them.

**Magicme** · 02/02/2007, 4:33 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Now you drop the bombshell Magicme....!?!!

I'm afraid it's all over now between you, me and the donkey...

eh?? are u female Steve? if u are just leave the donkey then.......

**dcfcsteve** · 02/02/2007, 4:33 PM

Originally Posted by Magicme

eh?? are u female Steve? if u are just leave the donkey then.......

I can be whatever you want me to be, Magicme.....

**paul_oshea** · 02/02/2007, 4:42 PM

I can be whatever you want me to be, .....

Not to interupt the cyber sex, ahem but that sounds just like a txt message I received from a certain forum member

**steno** · 02/02/2007, 4:52 PM

Originally Posted by garyderry

Well any club who refuse to show EL matches in their club bar (kildare county) as there was a premiership game on, no wonder people would be glad to see the back of you, asked could i watch the cup semi last season (cork V derry) and was told where to go, you can hardly claim to support the league,

Whoa there horsey!, In what way can I or the club not claim to support the league?.

I have gone to as many eircom league games (County and otherwise) as i possibly could have since I took up an interest maybe not as many as yourself or the majority of posters here but I think i am perfectly entitled to claim that i support the league in general and to be brutally honest I don't give a flying F**k what you think about that!

I really don't see how this can prove that I do not support the league.

As for the fact that you weren't granted your request to view the Semi final, I don't know what the excuse was (if any) but i would have been equally as dissappointed if i was told to F**k off and I am sorry to hear that this was the case.

The bar is run by Newbridge Town and not Kildare County and they also own the grounds while I myself do not see this as a acceptable excuse I have to say I am dissappointed to hear this.

To say that Kildare County has no interest in the developement of the Eircom League just because this happened though is ridiculous and well...... stupid IMO.

If that was the case then why an earth would we still be competing in the league?.

**Magicme** · 02/02/2007, 5:02 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I can be whatever you want me to be, Magicme.....

Johnny Lester???

**dcfcsteve** · 02/02/2007, 5:07 PM

If I was Ossie Kilkenny, I'd view this as an opportunity to sceew Shels and get Tolka on the cheap.

If he dangles a few million their way for the lease, they'd have no choice but to say yes. He already has first call on the ground, and they're unlikely to find anyone else willing to throw money at them in their current state. Hey presto - Tolka on the cheap. I have no idea if he is genuinely supportive of Irish football or not. From a puely hypothetical viewpoint - perhaps the biggest thing that would stop him from doing something like that would be a moral dilemma presented by his Sports Council involvement...?

Coincidentally - there's a cheeky litle stealth tactic sometimes used by developers/businessmen in English non-league football who want to get their hands on valuable football grounds (particularly in London).

It begins by getting-in with a club and donating them a few quid to help them out. Then you sell them a bit of a dream regarding their potential, and offer to lend them some short-term funding to help it happen. They then improve as a team and a stadium etc, their ambitions increase and they start to get all starry-eyed.

When the time comes for your short-term loans to be repaid, you just act all cool about them and tell them that you don't really want the money back : "Sure, just give it to me in shares instead". And so you continue fueling their ambition, providing loans and getting shares in the club in return. Over time, and without them really suspecting anything, you build-up a very strong share-holding in the club and whoom - launch your takeover. You succeed, develop plans to redevlop the existing ground and move the club elsewhere, and then slowly start to run the club into the ground. The club's waning fortunes drives their few fans away (it is non-league, after all) and demotivates the other Board members and volunteers, who you've been sidelining since you took control anyway. After a couple of years you have planning permission to redevelop the existing ground, and as the club is on the slide you have an excuse to not offer an alternative home for them. Another club bites the dust......

**dcfcsteve** · 02/02/2007, 5:12 PM

Originally Posted by Magicme

Johnny Lester???

A Johnny Tester......?!?

**Magicme** · 02/02/2007, 5:14 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

A Johnny Tester......?!?

ha ha....behave!

**dcfcsteve** · 02/02/2007, 5:16 PM

Originally Posted by Magicme

ha ha....behave!

You're pure filth, Magicme.

I'm a good Catholic boy......

**Magicme** · 02/02/2007, 9:36 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

You're pure filth, Magicme.

I'm a good Catholic boy......

Aye and I am the Sweedish model they were talkin bout earlier!

**Paddyfield** · 02/02/2007, 10:24 PM

You can watch it on...
http://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/

Miriam knows her football. Who does she support?

**BohsPartisan** · 02/02/2007, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Paddyfield

You can watch it on...
http://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/

Miriam knows her football. Who does she support?

Dublin City

**Billy Lord** · 02/02/2007, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

Dear Mr Lord,

Your exorbitant fine will be in the post as soon as Franner gets that translated for us.

Yours,
your ever competent friends in the FAI

KOH

Piacere! Accolgo favorevolmente il vostro contributo. Grazie.

**pete** · 02/02/2007, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Billy Lord

Here come the sun king
Here come the sun king

Everybody's laughing
Everybody's happy

Here come the sun king

Cuando para mucho mi amore de UEFA expenses form
Mundo paparazzi mi amore FIFA freebies anyone?
Cuesto abrigado tanta mucho Machiavellian goings-on

Take it easy now. Don't need those FAI types threatening foot.ie

**Sheridan** · 02/02/2007, 11:59 PM

Gareth, you made two errors in instigating this thread. One was in confusing mob consensus among internet users (who'll often parrot the prevailing opinion among more vocal members because they can't be bothered to think for themselves) with popular sentiment in the real world, the other was in starting the thread at all. By doing so, you're just inviting contributions of the grandstanding, posturing variety witnessed in this thread to date, mostly authored by hardcore wannabes desperately attempting to catch the eye of their "superiors" (and it at least one instance, a pathetic wannabe trying to impress fans of another club.)

I'm not especially well-disposed towards Shels, but nor am I shortsighted enough to suppose that they were the first club to buy titles with money they didn't have, to ride roughshod over other clubs on their journey to the top, or to behave with insufferable arrogance once they got there. One need cast one's mind back barely twenty years for the canonical example.

Indeed, seductive though the myth of a self-sustaining football club spreadsheeting its way to success undoubtedly is, the fact remains that, when an Irish club eventually makes it to the promised land, it will be an Ollie-like figure who leads them there. Ollie's most grievous errors were tactical rather than strategic. He gambled all-in from the first deal to the last and threw too much good money after bad, largely because of the absence of a credible dissenting voice. But he wasn't the first to do that, and God knows he won't be the last. I'm certainly not going to cast any stones his way, and I hope Shels recover from his depredations.

**BohsPartisan** · 03/02/2007, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Sheridan

I'm certainly not going to cast any stones his way,

Get out of the way then...

**p�l-dcfc** · 03/02/2007, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Sheridan

Gareth, you made two errors in instigating this thread. One was in confusing mob consensus among internet users (who'll often parrot the prevailing opinion among more vocal members because they can't be bothered to think for themselves) with popular sentiment in the real world, the other was in starting the thread at all.

Don't be such a tit. I reckon everyone on foot and eL internet in general would like Shels to survive, but just ****ing hate Ollie. Shelbourne have, in general, been good for the league, Ollie has been a joke.