John O'Shea

**Soko** · 16/11/2006, 5:25 PM

For the last time people were screaming "SHOOT"

**republicofwhite** · 16/11/2006, 5:40 PM

Its probably not that harsh, he has been consistently well below par for his country for far too long, and was particularly atrocious last night, I honestly cant recall a more frustrating player in the green. He should be at least fourth in the pecking order behind Joey O'Brien, Stephen Carr and Stephen Kelly, who deserves a bit more credit after his excellent performance against the Czechs. A lot better than O'Shea has ever managed. For some reason, I'm not surprised that Stan singled him out for particular praise after the match. Vintage performance at this stage from "the gaffer"

**jbyrne** · 16/11/2006, 6:03 PM

Originally Posted by Soko

I did stick my finger up at him at the end though when he was trying to lap up the applause

well done. hope youre proud of that. were you that fat clown that held the game by running onto the pitch by any chance?

as shown by the great support given by the fans against the chech rep its far more productive to support than moan, groan and grumble at the players. the way most people here go on about the players it seems they would be only happy if shay given took to the field on his own.... oh yes, with a few great eircom lge players thrown in also

if he was playing for any other club than man utd he wouldnt get half the abuse he gets. he had a very solid game at CB against the chechs

**carloz** · 16/11/2006, 6:14 PM

I was booing him anyway. His last two performances in Nicosia should have seen him dropped yet he is still there and the guy never seems to give close to 100%. Such potential but it wont be realised. Still dunno which is wore to have though, him or Carr playing full back!!!! How long will Joey O'Brien be out for???

**eirebhoy** · 16/11/2006, 7:03 PM

Originally Posted by carloz

How long will Joey O'Brien be out for???

First of all, please don't boo our own players for just being poor. You might think he's not giving 100% but of course he is trying his best. He just has no confidence as he knows what the fans think of him. Anyway, O'Brien is expected back within the next 2 weeks.

**Beavis** · 16/11/2006, 7:09 PM

Originally Posted by jbyrne

well done. hope youre proud of that

Was just bout to say the same thing myself. Did it make you feel all good inside?

The booing is uncomprehendable.I have never seen any player on an irish team go out and purposely play badly. I'm losing my faith in the irish footballing public with every incident of such.

**Soko** · 16/11/2006, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by jbyrne

well done. hope youre proud of that. were you that fat clown that held the game by running onto the pitch by any chance?

as shown by the great support given by the fans against the chech rep its far more productive to support than moan, groan and grumble at the players. the way most people here go on about the players it seems they would be only happy if shay given took to the field on his own.... oh yes, with a few great eircom lge players thrown in also

if he was playing for any other club than man utd he wouldnt get half the abuse he gets. he had a very solid game at CB against the chechs

He epitomises everything I hate about modern day footballers and he can go **** himself if he thinks that rubbish, half arsed effort is good enough. The fact that he plays for Man Utd does actually have something to do with it, he seems to think he's actually related to a footballer. I couldn't give a toss if he played for Wayside Celtic, he's a loafer who puts in zero effort and is a huge fault of the team.

Despite his solid performance agaisnt the "chechs" at "CB" (do you even watch the games) he still sauntered back from half way leaving McShane all alone with Koller to equalise. I wouldn't have him in a pub league team, fraudster barely breaks a sweat and can't wait to get back to England. We should leave him there from now

**depor** · 17/11/2006, 12:27 AM

ya have to agree, he was shocking the other night. and soko is right about the czech game as o'shea turned his back on the player to allow him play koller in for the equaliser.

**youngirish** · 17/11/2006, 9:02 AM

Originally Posted by depor

ya have to agree, he was shocking the other night. and soko is right about the czech game as o'shea turned his back on the player to allow him play koller in for the equaliser.

Too true. His laziness cost us the 3 points and any hopes of qualification went with them. He ruined an otherwise good performance (perhaps his only one in an Ireland jersey) but was still overshadowed by McShane.

No matter what anyone says he has been one of the main reasons why we have failed to qualify for the last three campaigns (I'm including this one) if you look at his individual mistakes and what they've cost us in matches compared to other players. He also doesn't do anything productive to make up for these mistakes so he's a liability all round. I remember he gave that silly peno away against Israel for no reason when we were coasting to victory in that group. After that it was all downhill.

He was also shocking against the Swiss away in the previous European qualification and was at fault for the goals. Another qualification f**ked up.

I can't remember any other player being as consistently bad for Ireland. I can understand the booing. He's a donkey.

**nedder** · 17/11/2006, 9:49 AM

Originally Posted by youngirish

Too true. His laziness cost us the 3 points and any hopes of qualification went with them. He ruined an otherwise good performance (perhaps his only one in an Ireland jersey) but was still overshadowed by McShane.

No matter what anyone says he has been one of the main reasons why we have failed to qualify for the last three campaigns (I'm including this one) if you look at his individual mistakes and what they've cost us in matches compared to other players. He also doesn't do anything productive to make up for these mistakes so he's a liability all round. I remember he gave that silly peno away against Israel for no reason when we were coasting to victory in that group. After that it was all downhill.

He was also shocking against the Swiss away in the previous European qualification and was at fault for the goals. Another qualification f**ked up.

I can't remember any other player being as consistently bad for Ireland. I can understand the booing. He's a donkey.

While you are at it, you may put him down for starting the iraq war as well. And maybe he's the cause of global warming.....

**eirebhoy** · 17/11/2006, 10:04 AM

Of course he's a bad player, every non-Man Utd supporting Irish person would agree with that. It's ridiculous to say he deserves to be booed though. It's also ridiculous to think he's not trying his best for Ireland. There'd be nothing more satisfying to John than putting in a man of the match performance and having papers raving about him the following morning. He can hardly wipe the smile of his face for hours after he scores.

He's just a player hugely affected by confidence and has very little aggression to make him bully players and stamp his authority on games. If I was beside someone booing O'Shea I certainly wouldn't let them be.

**passinginterest** · 17/11/2006, 10:15 AM

No doubt there was clearly audible booing of O'Shea at least once on the TV. Can't agree with booing any Irish player though. It must be really demoralising for the whole team to hear a crowd just waiting to get on their back.

**Eire06** · 17/11/2006, 10:34 AM

It is a disgrace Booing your own countries players.

How is a player supposed to perform to his best with a few eejets booing him ruining his self confidence..
I don't think O'Shea is as bad as everyone is making it out, as it was said earlier in this thread he wouldn't get half as much stick if he didn't play Man United!
Its like everyone is blaming only him for Irelands poor performance lately, but there's 10 other players on that pitch and a useless manager who are just as equally to blame...
It's Staunton who picks him for the squad so if you're not happy with him starting go to Stan and blame him..

Stay at home if you aren't happy with him, but don't boo at matches it ruins it for the majority of fans and players

**Collyontour** · 17/11/2006, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Eire06

I don't think O'Shea is as bad as everyone is making it out, as it was said earlier in this thread he wouldn't get half as much stick if he didn't play Man United!

I was in the South Terrace and everyone was shouting 'Shoot' when he got the ball. I couldn't hear anyone booing. Granted, in Cyprus he got a bit of stick. This thing about Man. United is b******s. People don't care who he plays for. The fact is he is a talented player who doesn't give a s*** about playing for Ireland. And he is as bad as everyone is making out. Watch him when he gives the ball away. Mr. Casual himself. We should get him a deckchair for the next game.

**Wolfie** · 17/11/2006, 1:09 PM

Checked the Wikipedia (the encyclopedia , who's who yoke) write up under John O'Shea. Thought it might be a non-commital, non - critical run through the career so far. I've a feeling this write up may have been infiltrated and amended by a disgruntled Ireland fan. A few choice quotes:

"O'Shea earned his first senior cap for ROI on 15th August 2001, when he came on as an 84th minute sub at home to Croatia. His debut ended in disappointment, however, when he gave away a penalty in injury time that resulted in Ireland conceding their lead......."

It gets worse.

".....he frustrated many Manchester United supporters with a series of technically inept, slow and clumsy performances displaying poor accuracy of passing".

**barney** · 17/11/2006, 1:15 PM

Originally Posted by Soko

He epitomises everything I hate about modern day footballers and he can go **** himself if he thinks that rubbish, half arsed effort is good enough. The fact that he plays for Man Utd does actually have something to do with it, he seems to think he's actually related to a footballer. I couldn't give a toss if he played for Wayside Celtic, he's a loafer who puts in zero effort and is a huge fault of the team.

Despite his solid performance agaisnt the "chechs" at "CB" (do you even watch the games) he still sauntered back from half way leaving McShane all alone with Koller to equalise. I wouldn't have him in a pub league team, fraudster barely breaks a sweat and can't wait to get back to England. We should leave him there from now

You sir epitomise everything that I hate about football fans. Just because O'Shea doesn't run around like a headless chicken does not mean that he doesn't care. Not everyone has to show Roy Keane's level of visible passion.

If O'Shea had sprinted back against the Czechs he still probably wouldnt have gotten back to deny Koller. McShane got caught out for the goal, but he seems to have been absolved from all blame because he's a fan favourite with bandwagoners like you.

Furthermore, John O'Shea frequently comes back to Ireland and makes himself available to his schoolboy clubs to help train their youngsters. Hardly something that sits comfortably with the caricature you'd like to peddle but nonetheless, thems the facts.

John O'Shea is a decent footballer. He rarely makes mistakes that cost either Ireland or United goals. The people that booed him the other night have no place at football games.

**youngirish** · 17/11/2006, 1:42 PM

Originally Posted by barney

If O'Shea had sprinted back against the Czechs he still probably wouldnt have gotten back to deny Koller. McShane got caught out for the goal, but he seems to have been absolved from all blame because he's a fan favourite with bandwagoners like you.

Wrong O'Shea would have got back if he hadn't been acting like he was strolling around in the park on a Sunday afternoon. McShane could also have been better but it's hard for a young player when he has to cover for his idle defensive partner.

Originally Posted by barney

Furthermore, John O'Shea frequently comes back to Ireland and makes himself available to his schoolboy clubs to help train their youngsters. Hardly something that sits comfortably with the caricature you'd like to peddle but nonetheless, thems the facts.

Who cares? He's sh*t for Ireland. Extremely sh*t and should be dropped. That's all that matters. He should long since have been given the boot as he's keeping younger, infintely more talented players from the team and has been for 4 years now. If we are to progress he is the first player that needs to go.

Originally Posted by barney

John O'Shea is a decent footballer. He rarely makes mistakes that cost either Ireland or United goals. The people that booed him the other night have no place at football games.

Pure deluded sh*t. Are you John O'Shea in disguise? He's cost us more goals than I care to remember. Why are you sticking up for him? No one dislikes him for any other reason than he's pure c**p. I have nothing personally against the lad but he's rubbish and has always been so for Ireland. If he was anyway half decent he wouldn't get any stick.

As for the boos I agree they don't help but maybe they might convince that ginger idiot Staunton that O'Shea is not up to the standard required for an International footballer and he might finally decide to stop accomodating him in the team, though to be honest I unfortunately can see him hanging around while he still continues to get the odd game at Man U.

**osarusan** · 17/11/2006, 1:53 PM

Originally Posted by Collyontour

I was in the South Terrace and everyone was shouting 'Shoot' when he got the ball. I couldn't hear anyone booing. Granted, in Cyprus he got a bit of stick. This thing about Man. United is b******s. People don't care who he plays for. The fact is he is a talented player who doesn't give a s*** about playing for Ireland. And he is as bad as everyone is making out. Watch him when he gives the ball away. Mr. Casual himself. We should get him a deckchair for the next game.

Make up your mind man.