John O'Shea

Yeah, I'm not blaming him, he just looked a long way off the pace.

I can't understand why Ferguson played him at all, an unfit O'Shea is even more a liability than a fit O'Shea.

I came across a saying recently that I must put into use.... never argue with idiots, they will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

O'Shea I'm afraid will never fulfill his potential as a footballer at this stage. I think he doesn't have the hardness that is required in good players.

Originally Posted by yapster

O'Shea I'm afraid will never fulfill his potential as a footballer at this stage. I think he doesn't have the hardness that is required in good players.

Well, he's made a good career for himself at one of the world's top clubs and has proven to be an important player for us. Fair play John O'!

Originally Posted by yapster

O'Shea I'm afraid will never fulfill his potential as a footballer at this stage. I think he doesn't have the hardness that is required in good players.

What heights would he have needed to have reached by this point for you to consider him as having fulfilled his potential? I thought last season, with pretty-much a permanent first-team place in the United team and working with Trap on the international stage, was a defining or coming-of-age season for O'Shea. I admit, he was someone I had always doubted previously, maybe somewhat harshly at times, but he proved me wrong last season and now, rather than harbour anxiety and apprehension when I see him lining out for Ireland, I actually feel more secure with him in the starting line-up. Since when did being a hard man make a good player?

John O'Shea isn't a patch on Messi.

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

What heights would he have needed to have reached by this point for you to consider him as having fulfilled his potential? I thought last season, with pretty-much a permanent first-team place in the United team and working with Trap on the international stage, was a defining or coming-of-age season for O'Shea. I admit, he was someone I had always doubted previously, maybe somewhat harshly at times, but he proved me wrong last season and now, rather than harbour anxiety and apprehension when I see him lining out for Ireland, I actually feel more secure with him in the starting line-up. Since when did being a hard man make a good player?

I just think he lacks a certain toughness in him thats all. Yes he had his best season last year but he still is a way off the player he should be.

Originally Posted by yapster

I just think he lacks a certain toughness in him thats all. Yes he had his best season last year but he still is a way off the player he should be.

Which is where?

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

Which is where?

He should at this stage of his career be a regular for his club, winning leagues and european cups and be a vital player for his national team........ oh wait

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

He should at this stage of his career be a regular for his club, winning leagues and european cups and be a vital player for his national team........ oh wait

A vital player in one of the worst Irish squads ever.. A glorified sub at United for years.

just not true.

Originally Posted by SkStu

just not true.

surely that doesn't surprise you. The WUM has a history of playing loose with the truth.

Originally Posted by yapster

A vital player in one of the worst Irish squads ever.. A glorified sub at United for years.

I'm not sure if it was last year's title winning season, or the season before that, but John O'Shea played more minutes than any other United player during one of those title winning seasons.

You're a joke.

Originally Posted by EastTerracer

surely that doesn't surprise you. The WUM has a history of playing loose with the truth.

whats surprised me really is that he is still allowed to post here despite me reporting the relevant posts.

i'm sure he has a nice pile of infractions by now.. hopefully he will go away eventually johns a legend

Originally Posted by irishfan86

I'm not sure if it was last year's title winning season, or the season before that, but John O'Shea played more minutes than any other United player during one of those title winning seasons.

You're a joke.

I think it was last season.As far as I know only Ronaldo started more games that season. United have missed him badly this season with Brown,Neville and Rafael all struggling in the right back position

I just happen to think that O'Shea is not a composed and accomplised player thats all. He had such potential when he first came on the scene but he lacks confidence in himself I think to fullfill his potential.

Originally Posted by SkStu

whats surprised me really is that he is still allowed to post here despite me reporting the relevant posts.

I run an Irish board, and I act upon the posts,pictures myself.I certainly would not look at someones complaint especially if he had a Bohs(1-0) crest beside his name(That was a joke). Yapster has come over here from my board, but he does love his role. When he gets bored here he'll come home to annoy some more folk up over there. I think though he really does believe what he is saying is true.

Originally Posted by yapster

I just happen to think that O'Shea is not a composed and accomplised player thats all. He had such potential when he first came on the scene but he lacks confidence in himself I think to fullfill his potential.

I've seen him live in the Champions League on a number of occasions; he has always been very comfortable on the ball.