That's not the view from most fans at all this season.Originally Posted by OwlsFan
http://www.redcafe.net/f6/has-oshea-...-match-236258/
http://www.redcafe.net/f6/evans-oshea-237480/
http://www.redcafe.net/f6/does-john-oshea-237498/
Here's a video from that first thread of him nutmegging Luis Figo (I assume from the recent CL game):
A lot of people on that thread are less than enthused about him, though the dissenting voices are much more muted in the second and third threads.
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most fans posting on forums havent a clue
A fair percentage of those in the stands don't have one either.
You can't spell failure without FAI
one and the same probably
My view on O'Shea is that he had/has latent ability as a player but never settled on a position and thus his development stagnated.
He became basically a 'jack of all trades and a master of none.'
I thought he was fantastic against Inter Milan. He stopped their attacks again and again. He is clearly very fit and his passing was great (except for one awful pass at the start). I thought he was one of the best players on the night.
Really! he was given a 6 by sports journalists versus 7s and 8s for the other Man U defenders. He started terrribly. Again, he is not a central defender.
A little hyperbole there surely? He did well to recover from being skinned by Ibrahamovich a few times start of the second half and regain his composure but fantastic is stretching it.
That said, he's having his best season in years (since his first probably) and long may it continue.
their opinion counts no more than anyone elses. had a fine game but sure some on here will never let up on critisising him. most countries our size would love to have one of their defenders playing regularly for probably the best club side in the world.... but oh no not us miserable sods
ps. he was playing full back on tuesday
well said
Its really not that complicated!!!
I'm just trying to get out a reasonable opinion of O'Shea.
He's a decent player on a fantastic team.
He's having a good team by his standards, but not by the standards of a Premier League winning team.
For many of the games this season, he has been one of the worst for United in a winning effort.
This is not to say that he has been particularly bad, but rather that he had the least to contribute in terms of the win.
He is solid defensively, and passable in possession, and he has been exceptional for Ireland at international level in this campaign, but I didn't think O'Shea deserved a lot of the criticism he once received on here, and by the same token, I don't think he deserves a lot of the credit he's getting now.
Decent player who is important to the national team, but not the player I'm reading about in some of these posts.
is that because they don't agree with either of you
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how on earth does one come up with this assertion? its all just opinion. surely he has contributed more than those not starting regularly? definately more than berbatov and rooney recently in anycase
If you think O'Shea is more valuable to the cause than Berbatov or Rooney, I can't really talk to you.
Any manager would rather have potential match winners like Berbatov and Rooney in their side over a guy like John O'Shea, who for all his consistent play this season, is quite limited.
how can anyone compare the worth of a right back/centre back with attacking, flair players?
what a bullsh*t argument.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
I wasn't the one who brought it up.
When Evra plays, he can impact a match dramatically. As can Ferdinand and Vidic.
I don't feel that O'Shea can make that same level of impact as a fullback.
He lacks the focus to be a world-class centre-half, and the on-the-ball, attacking ability, of a world-class fullback.
So you're left with a decent utility player by top-class standards.
He's a key player for us right now, but to say he was one of the best players on Tuesday is laughable.
I don't see why not really, afterall they are the people who have to deal with the attacking flair players, surely the best defenders should be on as much as the best attackers on that basis?
I think it was Tommy Docherty who said that no player of any skill should ever be played in defence. (I assume that was at least a little tongue in cheek.)
I suspect there's a reason defenders earn less and are bought and sold for less than strikers. Maybe it's just psychology though.
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John Terry is Chelsea's highest earner.
I doubt Ferdinand and Carragher are on **** wages either...
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