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    Apparently O'Shea not involved in the bid. Just saw on Sky Sports News

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    That's great news.

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    O'Sheas versatility is very much valued by Ferguson, I don't think he'd want to see him leave at all. Browns age and a younger replacement being brought in and Gibson just generally not being good enough makes the other two more realistic to leave.


    Edit: The word on redcafe is a triple bid was launched by Sunderland, United dismissed the offer for JOS and they were willing to discuss a double bid for Brown and Gibson.
    Last edited by Murfinator; 08/06/2011 at 9:52 PM.

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    This article would seem to suggest otherwise!

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...e-2669974.html

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    It wouldn't make sense for that to be the case. O'Shea started 18 premier league games including the most important one against Chelsea. Ferguson rates him as an important player. He has a good injury record, modest wage, is only 30 and is popular with the fans. It'd be really illogical to want him out, the guy could play as a squad player for any team in the world, hes good and versatile enough for it. He's better than a club like Sunderland anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murfinator View Post
    It wouldn't make sense for that to be the case. O'Shea started 18 premier league games including the most important one against Chelsea. Ferguson rates him as an important player. He has a good injury record, modest wage, is only 30 and is popular with the fans. It'd be really illogical to want him out, the guy could play as a squad player for any team in the world, hes good and versatile enough for it. He's better than a club like Sunderland anyway.
    Fergie did the same with Phil Neville moved him on young enough to get 4 or 5 season elsewhere. O'Shea may not want to move either. I think regular football every season will prolong his Irish career. I'm suprised someone like Spurs or Everton haven't made enquiries yet.
    With a squad made up of players like Green, McShocking and Kilbad we are going places. Down the gutter.........

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    would like to see him go to a club where he is given more responsibility. dunne will be retiring in a few years and o'shea will be top dog for us then. he seems to struggle when put in a leadership role for us at the moment, so a bit of experience at club level at the likes of sunderland would be priceless

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    Daniel Taylor in the guardian (I'm pretty sure he's one the Guardian's inside-line-ers) is of the opinion Josh is off, not because of Liverpool signing Henderson, but because of United signing Phil Jones, and more than likely Varane....

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/b...chester-united

    For Phil Jones, now only an official announcement away from being confirmed as the most expensive teenager in English football, it came down to a position where virtually every top club in the country were fluttering their eyelashes in his direction.

    Only Manchester City out of the Premier League's top six did not follow up their interest in the former Balshaws High School pupil who still lives with his parents, Mark and Helen, in Leyland. City had watched him closely and were impressed by his potential, the way Jones had slipped seamlessly into top-flight football and the leadership skills that had led to comparisons with a young John Terry, but concluded that the Blackburn Rovers player made too many mistakes and may not be value for money.

    At Manchester United they saw something different: someone with such a rare talent they could not allow him to join one of their rivals – even though the timing did not entirely suit.

    Sir Alex Ferguson had been leaning towards waiting a year before it became apparent he could not delay any longer. Jones was already mulling over offers from Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur by the time United moved in and triggered the £16m release clause to gazump everyone.

    Chelsea had also begun the process of trying to extract him from Ewood Park but Jones had misgivings about moving to London and, to quote one friend, "did not fancy Liverpool". By the time Arsène Wenger rang on Tuesday night the teenager's mind was already clear. Ferguson, always aware of the benefits of getting the family onside, had already spoken to Jones's parents, promising that United would provide a stable environment for a player thrust into a new life of riches and potential glories.

    The only issue for Jones now is how long he has to wait. Wes Brown and John O'Shea will shortly be leaving Old Trafford but Jones is still joining a club with an established central defensive partnership in Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic, an accomplished backup in Chris Smalling and a fourth player, Jonny Evans, who has endured a difficult year but still shown sporadic glimpses of developing into a top defender.

    The signing, moreover, does not necessarily mean Ferguson will abandon his plans to recruit the 18-year-old Raphaël Varane from Lens. Varane, like Jones, has come to United's attention after a series of outstanding displays in central defence and as a holding midfielder. He would cost around £8m.


    The player with the most legitimate cause for concern is Evans, who seems certain to be shunted into the role of fifth-choice centre-back only a year after being the first-choice replacement if either Ferdinand or Vidic was absent.

    But Ferdinand, too, could be forgiven for wondering what Jones's arrival means for him over the next couple of years. Ferdinand is 33 later this year and his injury problems mean he may be approaching his final season as an automatic first-team pick.

    What cannot be disputed is that it leaves United's defence in tremendous shape for the short, medium and long-term. An £18m deal for Spain's Under-21 international goalkeeper, David de Gea, should be finalised with Atlético Madrid in the coming weeks. Patrice Evra admitted on Wednesday "this wasn't my best season", culminating in his poor performance in the Champions League Final, but the Frenchman is still a talented, attacking left-back. Add to that, the development of the 19-year-old Da Silva twins, Rafael and Fabio, and potentially Varane, and Ferguson, that strategic planner, is entitled to think he has put in place United's defence for the next decade.
    Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!

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    i just cant see utd letting O'Shea go given his versatility. sure he even played in goals for them once!

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    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...298639934.html

    According to this, a deal for O'Shea, Gibson and Wes Brown has been accepted. Perhaps personal terms are still to be negotiated.

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    John releasing music under a pseudonym

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    This is a surprise. Liverpool, Spurs, Villa and Newcastle in for him according to the Indo.

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...t-2800418.html

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    Great to see interest from some of the more ambitious clubs.

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    The interest for Doyle is class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Great to see interest from some of the more ambitious clubs.
    not undeserved either. Despite his occasionally questionable reputation, he really is a quality player.
    I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.

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    I don't think Doyle would have the ambition to take a gamble on a club like some of those mentioned. I see Schalke, Dortmund, Juventus and Liverpool mentioned at the very least. He seems like the sort whos happy so long as hes playing regularly in the top flight and has his Ireland place, I don't think the money or fame at a "big" club is a major draw for him, though I definitely hope I'm wrong and he takes a punt at the top level.

    Doyle has to do so much dogwork for Wolves, Ireland and previously Reading because he was playing with a midfield thats usually dominated against, I'd love to see him playing in a side with a dominant midfield controlling the game.
    Last edited by Murfinator; 23/06/2011 at 11:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murfinator View Post
    Doyle has to do so much dogwork for Wolves, Ireland and previously Reading because he was playing with a midfield thats usually dominated against, I'd love to see him playing in a side with a dominant midfield controlling the game.
    So would I, I think he could replicate or even better that total he notched with Reading in their good season. I wouldnt put a 20 goal haul beyond him in a decent side, creative side.

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    About to sign for Sunderland. Surprisingly Gibson has yet to make his mind up. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...%28Football%29 O'Shea has agreed terms. Been on the radio and now in the Guardian.

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    Where else might Gibson go? He's not considering another season warming the bench at Old Trafford surely?

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    Newcastle are also in for him. This is surprising - the early reports were that O'Shea was the one of the three who was most reluctant.

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