Pity TV3 didn't show the tackles on Colin P and Woods just so that people won't think Shels were hard done by having one guy sent off...
I was telling me flatmate about the tackles so i was disapointed not to see them. they didn't pick up on georges little dive either.
btw me flatmate was laughing at the highlights package. in his view the qualaity of the goals was justification to him on the poverty of the fooball in EL
john flynn? - awesome!!!!!!
Well to be fair, he has a point... especially when you compair them to Forlans first cracker against Liverpool over the weekend. Poor old Dudek hadn't a chance!Originally posted by dalo
btw me flatmate was laughing at the highlights package. in his view the qualaity of the goals was justification to him on the poverty of the fooball in EL
As I say, we're just young & a bit nieve.
Originally posted by dalo
btw me flatmate was laughing at the highlights package. in his view the qualaity of the goals was justification to him on the poverty of the fooball in EL
What do you mean? That the highlights arent good enough?
If thats what he meant f**k him. After all one has to be able to walk before they can run, and TV3 are doing a bang up job considering it is a brand new show!
i know a guy at work who has lived in Barcelona, Milan and Munich. He never went to a match in any of these cities. Paid a few hundred euro recently to fly over to england to see Totenham. Hes a Liverpool "fan" btw. (The Liverpool of England that is not of Namibia or Uruguay, just in case you're wondering!). The Oirish football going public, ahhh I love them I do.
ENGLISH BASED GOALKEEPERS- THE BEST IN THE WORLD
You get ****e played everywhere. Most of the people who say the eL is crap have never been to a game and believe the word of a few gob****es.
Dunno how this thread got so off topic in only a few posts but there goes anyways...
A lot of the neuvo (spelling??) football (they probably call it soccer) fans in this country i'd say only know football as a form of entertainment - these people will probably never actually attend a game anywhere.
Probably best to try attract some of the people who travel to engerland to matches to go to the odd eL game. As the eL improves facilities & style of player i'm sure summer foot.ie will attract these people a lot easier...
Exactly Conor, I couldn't have said it better myself.Originally posted by Conor74
For me, going to a match is more than just football, it's the craic, the atmosphere, the drink, the smell of curried chips, the buzz, the sway in a terrace, the chants, the opposition fans, the people around you, the identification with players who are like you and not holed up in a flash car with tinted windows, the surge when a goal is scored, the shout of some wit in the crowd...
mmmmmm, curry chips.
Champions!
Last foreign game i saw was Spurs v Sheffield Wednesday around 1997-98 as was visiting London & on a lose end. Ended up 3-2 but was snooze fest as stuck up the top of the side stand (camera side).
Had been to many games in London around the late 80's pre-sky sports & somehow more character & passion in the grounds.
Originally posted by Conor74
Truth be told, I was one of those guys who paid a fortune to go to England. And I have been lucky enough to see some cracking games (Man City 3 Newcastle 3 - brilliant fans, Coventry 3 Leeds 4) with great players and fine football. But it's gotten more and more sterile. Elland Road used to be explosive, now it's like a library. Perhaps the lower leagues in England have retained the atmosphere (though some like Cardiff and Milwall have associated atmosphere with violence). And I would watch English football on tv alright.
But as soon as I went back to the eircom League and especially nighttime games at Turner's Cross I was hooked and I won't be shelling out to go back to any games across the water again. Ultimately, I thought I was passionate about Leeds United, but then I sat back and realised that it is so difficult to identify with an English club in an English league, you're scraping around for reasons like how proud you were of John Giles or Robbie Keane or Gary Kelly- it's kind of senseless really. Yorkshire is a great place and I've met some great fans of that club and decent people. But it's not my place, Munster is, Ireland is. And those people, while really nice, have a different background, were exposed to different things, have a different sense of humour and approach to life. I just feel more comfortable watching a Damien Richardson garble on about Irish football, then seeing three figures in a London studio break down a movement into computerised sequences.
English football is reduced to being ejected for standing or swearing, the "you're not singing any more" repeated ad nauseum, the plastic glasses, the presealed sandwiches, the inability to smoke anywhere, the inability to swear or chant, the police dogs, the hiding of colours in certain areas or pubs, the shelling out of small fortunes to get there and then get stuck with some other Irish guy who spends 4 hours talking about "Man Yoo" and never heard of Johnny Carey etc. That's not football, that's a Sky Sports brand being sold to you for a gross overvalue.
For me, going to a match is more than just football, it's the craic, the atmosphere, the drink, the smell of curried chips, the buzz, the sway in a terrace, the chants, the opposition fans, the people around you, the identification with players who are like you and not holed up in a flash car with tinted windows, the surge when a goal is scored, the shout of some wit in the crowd...
It took a long time for me to cotton on, but at last I have. As the computer game says This IS Football, and I love it.
well done, conor. the best thing anybody has posted here in a long time.
you should send that into the irish times, who knows they might publish it
yeah, spot on conor. i´m fed up of telling people that the quality of the football is not the biggest part of it
i´m gonna start callin you dev junior if you don´t stop thisOriginally posted by Conor74
What? That hockey playing Pimm's drinking Fine Gael loving rag?
I miss the Irish Press..
If TV3 had better camera cover, alot of EL goals would look just as good as UK Prem - but their lack of resources is a limiting factor that they cannot easily solve.
Think back to the first couple of months of the season and some of the class goals City scored on sunny days...and no TV3 there to let the world see...
yeah, but they don´t have the money, market or resources of sky. At any rate they´re a damn site better than RTEngland and look to be improving all the time. With support from fans they can only get better
Eanna, i wouldn't agree with that im afraid. The biggest turn-off for people is that they think there is no quality.Originally posted by Éanna
yeah, spot on conor. i´m fed up of telling people that the quality of the football is not the biggest part of it
Although funnily enough those quality conscious fans have no interest in europes greatest league. THe spainish league.
The biggest problem is the lack of consistancy in the matches. Now I go to all of City's home games and the odd away one when I get the chance but it is really hard to drum up a bit of interest. For instance I persuaded a friend of mine to a game recently Longford, and all he got was a cold! Some of the games are very entertainig Bohs and shels and shams but some can still be boring Drogs, Pats and longford. To attract people to the game you need to give them a product they will want to return to and the problem at the moment only some of the games are relaying a possitive image, the antics of the shed kids and the abuse coming from certain sections of the ground is not helping. However things are changing a programmes like TV3 will continue to reverse this negativity in the public eye.
Conor 74 pass over the soap boxes.
Dalo through your flat mate out the window, even if you live on the ground floor!!!!
One match in the UK €500.
EL match €6-12aprox.
Your money spend as you want,
I say leave them off.
They will never admit that the most likely have gone to a match in the UK and it was crap boring and uneventful a total waste of money, there the FA cup has become a bit of a joke, never mind the MM cup. You go to a stadium where if your not in the front 15 rows you may as well be watching sebuteo at home because that is closer to scale compared to what you would see. No pop star on the el teams bar JAAAAAYSOOON SHERRLICK !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have seen more exciting el matches then uk matches and I'd watch footie any place anywhere.
Those fans are not footie fans, the Orish footie fans.
Four Jumpers on the ground and a squashed up tin a few of the lads and I'd find that more exciting than last weeks Liverpool .v.Manu.
What skill is there involved in running around a pitch chasing a ball, with the top few being good and the others trying to break there legs, where are the Cryuffs, Van Bastens, Zicos Peles Maradonas, there gone, its the players that are remembered not the teams, its their skill with a ball not who they played for. So follow a team that you will never forget
Follow football because you love it, and when CCFC are playing in Europe enjoy being able to get your ticket and go to see them abroad and at home, enjoy the craic the atmosphere and the chips and remember you can't play football in an armchair.
We know the EL team can produce matches from heaven, some of the CCFC have me and friends still talking about it, remember CCFC v Galatarery and the we should of won, or B Munich and Dave barrys comments, Lausanne and the popcorn, 10-11 thousand at CCFC v Pat, beating Shels to make them lose the title. (just my few as a CCFC fan every team have 'those' matches)
So let them slate our el I say I lose no sleep over it
We have a country full of fans who follow the british game, so what if they say they are the 'real' fans that the others are 'on the band wagon' and that they themselves 'know everything about the game', [B]so what your at a football match not a pub quiz!!!![B] Do you remember when Blackburn won the League, all the fans around the place, all with their brand new tops as the just bought them fresh off the band wagon. where are they now?? or did they change their allegiance.
Leave them be like that, in 5 years time when they all turn around and say 'I've been an el fan all the time the rest are just arm chair fans' just say to them 'who cares I'm here for the love of football not the fashion'
It's only just begun...............
If the last 21 years were class, here's looking forward to the next 21 years. It is our time
I can identify with that. Anyone watch the Celtic game on TV last night? You'd have seen better games in the Munster Senior League..........2nd division! Absolute rubbish, and no doubt more to come on Saturday versus Rangers.Originally posted by pete
Ended up 3-2 but was snooze fest as stuck up the top of the side stand (camera side).
Murphy Out Now!!!
Munster 33-6 Gloucester
Aint revenge sweet?!
If, say, Liverpool Vs Man Unirad had the same excitement as the City Vs Shams game in september, all we would hear about is how this is the best league in the world. Football can be exciting. It can also be mind numbingly boring, be it Real Vs Barca or City Vs Drogs.
What i cant get over is people who wont even give the eL a chance. I was talking to a guy in the pub the other day (he was ashamed to say he is a Villa fan, he asked me, I said City, and you can guess the response), but in the conversation he was referring to the eL as "your league"
I would nt watch em if they were out my back garden etc. Lagners.
However, I will say that i enjoy watching the premiership/La Liga. I dont get excited about it, but enjoy none the less. If people want to spend their hard earned bobs on trtavelling to Old Trafford, let em. Its their money, their silliness and ultimately their loss.
It's also up to the clubs to provide the facilities for the Camera's..... Part of the problems with positioning is the clubs fault....Originally posted by SSS
If TV3 had better camera cover, alot of EL goals would look just as good as UK Prem - but their lack of resources is a limiting factor that they cannot easily solve.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
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