Delaney challenges writers’ spin

[Jerry The Saint]

But I would like to end on an upbeat note before the eircom League’s new Director Fran Gavin hits the bottle, wondering what he has let himself in for. It’s not all doom and gloom.

Delaney also took grave exception to the above comment about Fran Gavin.

You might say that the leader of the player's union who took no action while the top club couldn't pay wages and was rewarded by being put in charge of league administration got off lightly....

[Dodge]

Typical delaney bull****. The league's champions are crumbling, clubs struggling everywhere, grounds at risk in Dublin and elsewhere, no club in Limerick and the thing he chooses to comment on is a tabloid journo's speech.

I hope the SWAI boycott all FAI functions until he apologises

[MyTown]

Mind you the SIndo published an apology to JD pointing out where they got their facts wrong ( very unusual for them) and where they had drawn unfair and unreasonable conclusions.

No more than anyone else, he has a right to defend his good name and obviously they didn't fancy facing him in court on this one.

Its no harm for the SWAI to be reminded that there is no excuse for poor research and laziness. How many "stories" have been written on the basis of a few open excahnges on this forum?

[Schumi]

Mind you the SIndo published an apology to JD pointing out where they got their facts wrong ( very unusual for them) and where they had drawn unfair and unreasonable conclusions.

What were the wrong facts and conclusions?

[WeAreRovers]

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Its no harm for the SWAI to be reminded that there is no excuse for poor research and laziness. How many "stories" have been written on the basis of a few open excahnges on this forum?

And where exactly is the poor research and laziness in the speech? I'm glad it's been posted here so people can see exactly how petty and control-freakery Delaney actually is. I read it last week and couldn't believe Delaney's over reaction. Talk about re-arranging the deckchairs.

KOH

[LukeO]

While I dont have a lot time for O'Riordan (a self confessed liverpool "supporter" ) what is wrong with that speech?

"A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at him or her".

KOH

Ehhh... I'd love to know where you got your info from. Neil is not, and never has been, a Liverpool fan.

The LoI has always come first for him and its not a secret who he supports here... but ManUre are his Premiership team of choice.

I don't have much time for him either, absolute tosser...

And where exactly is the poor research and laziness in the speech? I'm glad it's been posted here so people can see exactly how petty and control-freakery Delaney actually is. I read it last week and couldn't believe Delaney's over reaction. Talk about re-arranging the deckchairs.

KOH

There is none, judging from MyTown's post he's launched into a response without even reading the speech.

[NY Hoop]

Ehhh... I'd love to know where you got your info from. Neil is not, and never has been, a Liverpool fan.

The LoI has always come first for him and its not a secret who he supports here... but ManUre are his Premiership team of choice.

I don't have much time for him either, absolute tosser...

Could have sworn I read an article he wrote about his love of liverpool. Anyway manure/liverfluke whats the difference? If you dont "follow" one it has to be the other!!

KOH

[charliesboots]

I don't have much time for him either, absolute tosser...

Statto Junior I presume....I remember the days when NO'R used to follow Robert Reid around until RR eventually let him start covering games.

No doubt that he's a LOI supporter first.

[MyTown]

There is none, judging from MyTown's post he's launched into a response without even reading the speech.

2 separate issues lads. Firstly, I accept that the head honchos are all a bit precious when it comes to taking constructive critcicism on the chin and learning from it. They wouldn't be unique in that regard.

Secondly, the Sunday Indepenendent was obviously fearful enough of losing a libel action over whatever they wrote about the CEO of the FAI to print a pretty grovelling apology last Sunday. In other words, their legal advice was that they had their facts wrong and they had potentially defamed Delaney. This, to me, is evidence of poor research & laziness. So, I didn't launch into anything - the speech was fine, the Indo was not - but obviously some soccer writers in Sir Anthony O'Reillys Parish did.

[Dodge]

Secondly, the Sunday Indepenendent was obviously fearful enough of losing a libel action over whatever they wrote about the CEO of the FAI to print a pretty grovelling apology last Sunday. In other words, their legal advice was that they had their facts wrong and they had potentially defamed Delaney. This, to me, is evidence of poor research & laziness. So, I didn't launch into anything - the speech was fine, the Indo was not - but obviously some soccer writers in Sir Anthony O'Reillys Parish did.

Thats an awful big assumption you're making. Don't forget that the FAI's press officer is former Indo head football writer Gerry McDermott. The FAI could've used loads of other ways to get them to apologise witout mentioning legal action...

[LukeO]

Could have sworn I read an article he wrote about his love of liverpool. Anyway manure/liverfluke whats the difference? If you dont "follow" one it has to be the other!!

KOH

That was probably the piece he did when Liverpool where in the Champions League final a couple of years ago when he was talking about Irish links to Liverpool, certainly not about his love for them! etc.

In fairness, he is a ManUre fan second, in the same way that I'd be a Bohs fan first and a... erm... Man City fan second.

Statto Junior I presume....

Possibly.

I remember the days when NO'R used to follow Robert Reid around until RR eventually let him start covering games.

Interesting version of events.

[BohDiddley]

the Sunday Indepenendent was obviously fearful enough of losing a libel action over whatever they wrote about the CEO of the FAI to print a pretty grovelling apology last Sunday. In other words, their legal advice was that they had their facts wrong and they had potentially defamed Delaney. This, to me, is evidence of poor research & laziness.

Newspapers are forced by defamation law, which is due for reform, to print grovelling apologies all of the time. So much so that they are about as meaningful as the weather report. I thought everyone knew that.

[MyTown]

Dodge:
Independent Newspapers is in a virtual monopoly situation in this country, owning or part-owning most so called "national" titles as well as a whole slew of regional titles. They don't print climb-downs at the drop of a hat. Gerry McDermott was a dedicated hack following the fortunes of the EL for quite a while, but to suggest he would influence the SIndo into printing an apology they didn't feel legally obliged to print is naieve IMO.

BohDiddley:
How long have you been holding your breath for reform of the libel laws? Libel reform appears on the radar only when a high profile case hits the courts. There's no real political will to tackle it. A General Election is coming up in a couple of months. Libel reform is unlikely to make it onto any discussion forum.

I thouhgt everybody knew that.



How long have you been

[WeAreRovers]

Dodge:
Independent Newspapers is in a virtual monopoly situation in this country, owning or part-owning most so called "national" titles as well as a whole slew of regional titles. They don't print climb-downs at the drop of a hat. Gerry McDermott was a dedicated hack following the fortunes of the EL for quite a while, but to suggest he would influence the SIndo into printing an apology they didn't feel legally obliged to print is naieve IMO.

BohDiddley:
How long have you been holding your breath for reform of the libel laws? Libel reform appears on the radar only when a high profile case hits the courts. There's no real political will to tackle it. A General Election is coming up in a couple of months. Libel reform is unlikely to make it onto any discussion forum.

I thouhgt everybody knew that.



How long have you been

1) You obviously don't know the circumstances of McDermott's exit from Talbot Towers - and why would you? - but Dodge is fairly near the mark from what I know.

2) A new Defamation Bill and a Press Council are both imminent.

KOH

[MyTown]

1) You obviously don't know the circumstances of McDermott's exit from Talbot Towers - and why would you? - but Dodge is fairly near the mark from what I know.

2) A new Defamation Bill and a Press Council are both imminent.

KOH

Well fair enough - excuse my ignorance of the G.McD exit story. It's one of the disadvantages of living on the edge of the Atlantic.

The dictionary defines "imminent" as "About to occur", so per your authority on these matters, can I expect a Press Council & Defamation Bill, next week, next Dail Session, post General Election, post Ireland's next qualification for a major soccer tournament?????????????

I started on this thread because the CEO of the FAI has inherited the mantle of fair game for any kind of abuse, it goes with the territory and is often very justified. But I don't think he should be denied a right to defend himself, and it seems to me, on reflection, the SIndo reckoned he had a point.

I saw this as a victory of sorts for him & an admission on their part that they were wrong. Both occurences are as rare as they are welcome.

[monutdfc]

McDowell had quite good reforms of Irish libel-law lined up, but as usual he bowed to FF back-bencher pressure and there's a watered-down bill in the pipeline.
Surely what happened this week with Shels totally vindicates O'Riordan's criticism of the licensing process and the instability of clubs in the league (not that the Dublin City collapse didn't do so already).

[WeAreRovers]

Defamation Bill has been passed AFAIK and the Press Council has already been set up and staffed, it's just not operational yet. That's fairly imminent I would have thought.

As for McDermott, Dublin is a small media and football city and news travels fast. I think even Phoenix had a story about it.

KOH

[gufct]

What the Independent had to apologise for was an absolute joke and just shows how out of touch with reality and Childish "The Man from Del Monte" is.

There was a small piece in Sean Ryans Column the week before about the FAI's New Quarterly News and how Delaney must be very busy as he was in 8 Photographs and he threatens to sue them over that. All we are missing is the Moustache and Swastikas.

[LukeO]

Sorry to haul this thread back up to the top of the pile again, but I just thought I'd point out the exact content of Sean Ryan's piece in the Sindo that offended Delaney et al so much that they threatened legal action.

DELANEYPHILE
FOR Chief Executive John Delaney, the new edition of FAI News, the newsletter the FAI publish every now and again, must have been a tiresome task.

In its eight pages, there are no less than nine pictures of the bould John. The cult of Stalin, Ceausescu and some North Korean despot come to mind.

http://www.unison.ie/irish_independe...issue_id=15151

As was pointed out to me, it's the families of Stalin and Ceausescu that should be threatening legal action against the Sindo as surely being compared to the FAI despot Delaney has severely tarnished their reputations.

Shame on the Sindo for publishing an apology.

[Jerry The Saint]

Sorry to haul this thread back up to the top of the pile again, but I just thought I'd point out the exact content of Sean Ryan's piece in the Sindo that offended Delaney et al so much that they threatened legal action.



http://www.unison.ie/irish_independe...issue_id=15151

As was pointed out to me, it's the families of Stalin and Ceausescu that should be threatening legal action against the Sindo as surely being compared to the FAI despot Delaney has severely tarnished their reputations.

Shame on the Sindo for publishing an apology.

Poor old John Delaney - he's so ronery.