Cork AUL 2006/07

**backodanet** · 07/06/2007, 10:48 AM

Well lads

how are Maymount fixed for the semi - when's the last competitive match they played, are they missing anyone, do they fancy there chances?

**Innishvilla** · 07/06/2007, 1:08 PM

Originally Posted by backodanet

Well lads

how are Maymount fixed for the semi - when's the last competitive match they played, are they missing anyone, do they fancy there chances?

Last 2 league games of the season were 1:1 with Grattan and 2:2 with Leeside.
Hard to judge as Both Leeside and Grattan already knew their fate at that stage; But best of luck to them...

**rebelrover** · 07/06/2007, 1:39 PM

very best of luck to them, would be some win if they could pull it off....havnt seen that much of maymount in last 6 months so not really qualified to assess their chances!

**Shilts** · 07/06/2007, 3:37 PM

Best of luck to Maymount at the weekend.

Which Maymount will turn up tho'?
The Maymount who 'on their day' can give anyone a game, or the Maymount who get beaten by teams who don't have half their ability.

Pike came 2nd in their league, a long way ahead of Corbally who took Maymount to pens. Pike are the hot favs but I reckon the long layoff will suit Maymount more than Pike... so you never know!

**littleman** · 07/06/2007, 7:36 PM

First i'd like to wish Maymount the very best of luck.As a firm supporter of AUL teams its always great to see them challange for the bigger cups.

But on a more realistic note its a bit of DAVID/GOLIATH.
Grattan beat Pike in the Fai in a crackin game and every one of Grattans players had to play at 110% to do so.Maymount played Grattan 3 times this season.Losin 3/1 and 5/2 and drawin 1 a peice in a nothin end of season league game.

Maymount have some very good players but they have a lot of run of the mill players with short fuses.Pike are openly reguarded as one of the most physcial sides in junior football and I would have my doubts about Maymount keepin their heads.Not only that but Pike are strong in every position and just as strong on the bench in terms of footballing ability.They have or had a couple of Irish junior Internationals and a half a dozen Oscar Traonor players this season alone .Maymount have some excellent players in most positions but are also weak in one or two.It would be great to see a AUL side reach the final of the MJC but I think it might just be to big a cherry for Maymount to bite off.

Only thing is that in the big competitions Pike have a habbit of ****n the course when it comes to the crunch and it would'nt be the first time they lost a semi to a seemingly weaker side.If Maymount have any chance and its a slim chance its Tim Long and how he plays will decide it.

Again best of luck to Maymount and I hope you send Pike back to Limerick beaten by another Cork side.

**thirdeye** · 08/06/2007, 10:59 AM

i wouldn't write off maymounts chances yet....strong rumours that pike are missing four players thro holidays and mcgarry is not playing either....
one off game and both sides pretty rusty....best of luck to them...
cork sides appear to be much more competitive at the moment....

**limericklad** · 08/06/2007, 1:49 PM

Originally Posted by thirdeye

i wouldn't write off maymounts chances yet....strong rumours that pike are missing four players thro holidays and mcgarry is not playing either....
one off game and both sides pretty rusty....best of luck to them...
cork sides appear to be much more competitive at the moment....

lads pike say there gonna be missing players every week they'll be there with a full team!

**thirdeye** · 09/06/2007, 9:56 AM

Originally Posted by Shilts

How can you call the MSL a joke? The AUL can't compete with it at any level. The best AUL teams would not compete for the MSL Premier title (in my opinion).

Congratulations to the likes of Grattan who are trying to improve on and off the pitch but they'll still have to go to the likes of Maymount and tog off in a shed or play Glenthorn Celtic on a pitch too small for 5-a-sides every 2nd week (And these are premier teams - that's the joke!).

I agree with the comments that the FAI Junior Cup is as competitive as the FAI Intermediate Cup, but only in the later stages. The 630 teams in round 1 includes an awful lot of crap sides and the better teams waste a month of their season beating rubbish teams by 7-0 in the early rounds. (This also happens with the Munster Junior Cup). This delays the AUL Premier every year. This doesn't happen in the Intermediate Cup because every round is competitive.

The AUL Premier would be a cracker next season only if all the teams stayed and kept all their players. However, rumours that 3 of the AOH semi-finalists have applied to go to the MSL. This will ruin the AUL Premier as a competition if they are accepted.

It is difficult for the top teams like Grattan, Kinsale, Leeside and Coachford to decide whether to stay in the AUL and be a big fish in a little pond or to go to the MSL and compete with good sides every week. Their players will ultimately decide for them by transfering to MSL clubs if they decide to stay AUL.

I agreed with most of rebelrovers points except that I think that Kinsale should've been included in his list. They seem not to have got much credit for winning 4 AUL Prems in a row. Or have they gone downhill since then?

i see the cork aul beat the msl 3-1 last night.... what if anything can be read into that?? one grattan player on the score sheet another man of the match....surely grattan must be team of the year?? any takers

**bellavistaman** · 09/06/2007, 12:05 PM

In the AUL Ballyphehane are one of the best teams i've seen gone from 1b to Prem A to Prem in three years. They will be a big force next year. Grttan without doubt best this year in Premier.

**Innishvilla** · 11/06/2007, 9:01 AM

Originally Posted by bellavistaman

In the AUL Ballyphehane are one of the best teams i've seen gone from 1b to Prem A to Prem in three years. They will be a big force next year. Grttan without doubt best this year in Premier.

I'd give team of the season to Grattan but a big mention to two others.

Ballypheane have won promotion for the last 4 years in a row. Going from 3rd division to premier in the minimum time possible.

Knockavilla (Div 1) finished 2nd in league to just miss out on promotion, won the St. Michaels cup and won the County Cup no mean feat for any side.

ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS

**bellavistaman** · 11/06/2007, 9:28 AM

Ya agreed Ballyphehane are a class act, played against them 3 times this season and was only more impressed each time.

**Shilts** · 12/06/2007, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by thirdeye

i see the cork aul beat the msl 3-1 last night.... what if anything can be read into that?? one grattan player on the score sheet another man of the match....surely grattan must be team of the year?? any takers

Just to clarify. That MSL team was selected from their junior teams. That's from the 2nd and 3rd teams of the senior clubs (playing in the MSL junior section). I would imagine that an MSL Senior selection would be too strong for an AUL selection.

Team of the year could go to Grattan but the AUL normally give it to teams who've won more than 1 trophy. Ballyphehane maybe, but didn't they get it last year? They'll hardly give it to the same team 2 years running will they?

**pass&move** · 12/06/2007, 12:47 PM

Just found out Kinsale relegated to Premier A with Macroom for next season."Villa stay up

**Innishvilla** · 12/06/2007, 2:11 PM

Originally Posted by pass&move

Just found out Kinsale relegated to Premier A with Macroom for next season."Villa stay up

From Billy Lyons' website:
PROTEST DECISION

The AUL have announced their decision on the Villa Utd protest against Kinsale which said that the seasiders played an illegal player in their late season draw.

AUL secretary Martin Conlon: "The decision is to award the game and the points to Villa and to remove Kinsale from the league. This also means that according to rule that Kinsale will be relegated to Premier A with Macroom for next season."

**thirdeye** · 13/06/2007, 8:13 AM

Originally Posted by Innishvilla

From Billy Lyons' website:
PROTEST DECISION

The AUL have announced their decision on the Villa Utd protest against Kinsale which said that the seasiders played an illegal player in their late season draw.

AUL secretary Martin Conlon: "The decision is to award the game and the points to Villa and to remove Kinsale from the league. This also means that according to rule that Kinsale will be relegated to Premier A with Macroom for next season."

rumour has it that maymount have joined forces with temple utd. and gone to senior league.....that coupled with the chinese whispers that three out of the aoh cup semi-finalists are also thinking along those lines doesn't bode well for the aul...maybe it's time the aul had a look at themselves and ask why...time for new blood and new ideas there methinks.....

**Innishvilla** · 13/06/2007, 9:12 AM

Originally Posted by thirdeye

rumour has it that maymount have joined forces with temple utd. and gone to senior league.....that coupled with the chinese whispers that three out of the aoh cup semi-finalists are also thinking along those lines doesn't bode well for the aul...maybe it's time the aul had a look at themselves and ask why...time for new blood and new ideas there methinks.....

I've heard Kinsale are pushing hard to move MSL. I know they never had a good relationship with the AUL, they always felt the bias was towards city teams, even though they were the most successful team in the premier in the last 5 years. I'm guessing this relegation is one final swipe from the AUL...

Perhaps that might also go a way to explain some of the more recent defections to MSL... Blarney, Passage, Ballinhassig to name a few... I know they moved mostly for football reasons but...

Also were Temple a spin off from Rockmount?

**bellavistaman** · 13/06/2007, 3:59 PM

[QUOTE=Shilts;702107]Just to clarify. That MSL team was selected from their junior teams. That's from the 2nd and 3rd teams of the senior clubs (playing in the MSL junior section). I would imagine that an MSL Senior selection would be too strong for an AUL selection.

Team of the year could go to Grattan but the AUL normally give it to teams who've won more than 1 trophy. Ballyphehane maybe, but didn't they get it last year? They'll hardly give it to the same team 2 years running will they?[/QUOTE]

they did get it last year alrite they won th e league and cup double so did springifled in the same league only 1b, Ballyphehanes was 1a or 1c not sure, Ballyphehane won all awards springfield didnt get one????????

**Innishvilla** · 13/06/2007, 4:27 PM

Originally Posted by bellavistaman

they did get it last year alrite they won th e league and cup double so did springifled in the same league only 1b, Ballyphehanes was 1a or 1c not sure, Ballyphehane won all awards springfield didnt get one????????

Based on your comments it would look like Knockavilla have a strong chance they have won 2 cups this year from the same division as Ballypheane were in last year (1a) but if the AUL city bias continues as it normally does (Springfield from Cobh) I would figure Grattan will get team of the year.

Also just to clarify, I am not saying the Ballypheane last year or Grattan this year do not deserve team of the year they both had excellent years. But if a close decision comes down to a choice between city and country based teams the AUL goes with the city team more often than not...

**bellavistaman** · 13/06/2007, 9:54 PM

Originally Posted by Innishvilla

Based on your comments it would look like Knockavilla have a strong chance they have won 2 cups this year from the same division as Ballypheane were in last year (1a) but if the AUL city bias continues as it normally does (Springfield from Cobh) I would figure Grattan will get team of the year.

Also just to clarify, I am not saying the Ballypheane last year or Grattan this year do not deserve team of the year they both had excellent years. But if a close decision comes down to a choice between city and country based teams the AUL goes with the city team more often than not...

Heard that said many a time.

**thirdeye** · 15/06/2007, 6:13 AM

i wouldn't touch that one but i can say that i am no fan of the aul...sometimes success can be measured in terms other than trophys and the reason i felt grattan would be worthy winners, is after winning premier a last year to win the premier this year and be five minutes from an fai cup semi-final, to have in their squad the first aul player to get a cap i believe, 6 members of the aul squad and losing semi finalists in two other competitions is a huge season....i don't have a vested interest by the way but i watched some of their football this season..very entertaining and always goals...