An Example for All eL Clubs

**superfrank** · 24/01/2007, 9:28 AM

Ourselves and UCD are two prime examples of clubs living within their means and making a right go of it.

Originally Posted by pete

I've been saying it for years - eL sides spend too much on wages, until this close season not been foreign clubs queuing up for them.

A salary cap should be introduced like they have in American sports. Each club would only be allowed to spend so much on wages per year and if they brerak it they get fined.

**pineapple stu** · 24/01/2007, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by superfrank

Ourselves and UCD are two prime examples of clubs living within their means and making a right go of it.

Have you seen Bray's retained losses in their accounts?

**superfrank** · 24/01/2007, 7:38 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Have you seen Bray's retained losses in their accounts?

Em no, how bad are they??

**pineapple stu** · 24/01/2007, 11:24 PM

How can you assert that Bray live within their means if you haven't seen their accounts?

**superfrank** · 25/01/2007, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

How can you assert that Bray live within their means if you haven't seen their accounts?

We're still in business.

**Poor Student** · 25/01/2007, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by superfrank

We're still in business.

As of now, so are Shelbourne.

**pineapple stu** · 25/01/2007, 12:37 PM

As are everyone in the league. So why single out UCD and Bray?

**Student Mullet** · 25/01/2007, 1:43 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

As are everyone in the league.

As is everyone.

**endabob1** · 25/01/2007, 1:56 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Have you seen Bray's retained losses in their accounts?

Making a loss and living within your means are not mutually exclusive.

**passerrby** · 25/01/2007, 5:14 PM

three students on this page I thought you told your parents that you needed them laptops for study.

**pineapple stu** · 25/01/2007, 5:39 PM

Originally Posted by endabob1

Making a loss and living within your means are not mutually exclusive.

Never said they weren't. However, why single those two clubs out? That's all.

Originally Posted by passerrby

three students on this page I thought you told your parents that you needed them laptops for study.

Hilarious. Never heard that one before...

**superfrank** · 27/01/2007, 7:35 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

As are everyone in the league. So why single out UCD and Bray?

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that Bray and UCD get far fewer people at their matches then the likes of Shels, Bohs, Derry, Cork, etc. My point is it must therefore be harder to achieve success with limited finances available, that's why the teams with smaller attendances (therefore smaller income) should be credited for doing well.

**gustavo** · 27/01/2007, 7:38 PM

Yeah but those clubs that do spend more , are more successful than either Bray or UCD.

**superfrank** · 27/01/2007, 7:45 PM

Originally Posted by gustavo

Yeah but those clubs that do spend more , are more successful than either Bray or UCD.

I know. But if their income is similar to Bray or UCD's, they are taking a gamble. If it pays off well done but if it doesn't you get something like the Shels crisis.

**pineapple stu** · 27/01/2007, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by superfrank

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that Bray and UCD get far fewer people at their matches then the likes of Shels, Bohs, Derry, Cork, etc. My point is it must therefore be harder to achieve success with limited finances available, that's why the teams with smaller attendances (therefore smaller income) should be credited for doing well.

Don't think Bray have been achieving success of late!

Bray's retained losses are approaching the million mark at this stage. If we define "living within your means" as break even and not living off share capital from directors, then Bray aren't living within their means.

Nothing against Bray, but just wanted to set the record straight.