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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_peepee View Post
    The more I think about it... Leave them to it... Anyone who wants to play for us will anyway. Let them have their Respectable 3rd place in the qualifiers. I don't think they'll benifit from the service of the like of Neill Lennon again if that's still their attitude. Like I said, a fan would at least be curious, whatever your politics.
    Amen to that. And they won't get anywhere near 3rd by the time the group is wound up in the latter half of the year. Of this I'm 100% certain.

    Call me overly nationalistic (which I'm not) but the day I see a union jack waving at Lansdowne Road to support my beloved football team is the day I'll crawl into a ditch and tear my own heart out.

    All this let's join the North rubbish is embarrassing. Why strive to unite with a place where:

    1. The majority of the people in it want nothing to do with you.
    2. Has sh*t footballers in the first place.
    3. Is part of Britain.
    4. All the Northern Irish people who wish to can play for our team anyway.

    Lads show some respect for yourselves. And Dermot Ahern is a mongo anyway.
    Last edited by youngirish; 23/01/2007 at 12:32 PM.

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    Is that our same Ealing Green, as our own, on that site posting somewhat less than positive comments about the "ROI football team" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngirish View Post
    3. Is part of Britain.
    Without stirring, it's not now a part of Britain and never has been - The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This fact does not, of course, prevent Northern Unionists from feeling British and calling themselves British.

    As for Ahern's blatant electioneering, it's actually a good debate to open up and an All Ireland league is obviously the way forward. as for one national team, I honestly couldn't care less.

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    To be fair to that NI thread they have managed some 8 pages without getting drawn into a debate about EL V Championship, EL Vs SPL ,etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopez View Post
    You reckon? This is what the voice of NI fans think.

    http://ourweecountry.ipbhost.com/ind...howtopic=16620

    Far better is for the FAI to say 'Anyone with an Irish passport, Catholic or Protestant, Nationalist or Unionist, is welcome to play for us.' We can have that great and united Irish side. They can have a team that one day might qualify for the Viva World Cup.
    Some of the paranoia on that NI site is laughable.

    Leave them to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia View Post
    Is that our same Ealing Green, as our own, on that site posting somewhat less than positive comments about the "ROI football team" ?
    Of course. Sure he does the same thing on here anyway so why would that surprise anyone? He also claims David Healy is better than Kevin Doyle or Robbie Keane though so a phrase containing 'words' and 'pinch of salt' springs to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_peepee View Post
    Maybe there's some latent Nationalism in me... I dunno... But I rolled my eyes at nearly every post on that board.. "Player Grabbing"... Yeah! And Iain Dowie and Lawrie Snachez
    It's the sort of sh*te that makes you want to shake their heads to see if there are two brain cells that could get together and reproduce. The other classic is 'poaching'. You poach eggs you daft tw*ts. Even the thicker players can at least make the decision of what their nationality is.

    There is the odd decent contribution, like this one from 'Carrickally'. '...Anyway, as those who frequent the irish league section know, I'm in favour of an all-island league but not an all-island international team. Ahern's ill-judged comments only serve to push my goal further away, which is perhaps a good thing if this is the attitude of political sports fans from the ROI. I do not want a serious sporting consideration that may benefit progressive Irish League clubs being used as a vehicle to promote redundant (from a Southern perspective) political ideals.'

    I think this is the problem with Ahern. He's a bit clueless on the 'Realpolitik' of Irish football. Namely, even if we had a 32 county republic tomorrow, there still would not be any certainty of a 32 county team. If Ahern wants to play politics with football then he should get FIFA to recognise one country - one team, and get the UK to field one side, rather than rattling the cages of not only the neanderthals but rational Irish League fans that want to see some form of raising of standards to local football. If Ahern was successful, then he'd have his (de facto) all-Ireland team in a second.
    This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngirish View Post
    Of course. Sure he does the same thing on here anyway so why would that surprise anyone? He also claims David Healy is better than Kevin Doyle or Robbie Keane though so a phrase containing 'words' and 'pinch of salt' springs to mind.
    I just thought life was a bit short for joining a forum of a team you don't like -in fact, at times, even for one you do support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia View Post
    I just thought life was a bit short for joining a forum of a team you don't like -in fact, at times, even for one you do support.
    It's a bit sad if you are coming over and trying to be chummy. Another thing is going all guns blazing.

    One poster on here, who shall remain nameless, went on the Follow Follow forum and said 'For Sale: One sun bed. One vast collection of ray bans. One bag of cheap Ratners gold jewlery. Contact Mrs. Jim 'Doris Day' Gray.' It went, in his words, 'thermo-nuclear.'
    This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopez View Post
    It's a bit sad if you are coming over and trying to be chummy. Another thing is going all guns blazing.

    One poster on here, who shall remain nameless, went on the Follow Follow forum and said 'For Sale: One sun bed. One vast collection of ray bans. One bag of cheap Ratners gold jewlery. Contact Mrs. Jim 'Doris Day' Gray.' It went, in his words, 'thermo-nuclear.'
    Nice One.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Some of the paranoia on that NI site is laughable.

    Leave them to it.
    F*cking hysterical.

    Meanwhile, remember 'O'Connor And Kane Go To The Darkside, when are IFA going to get a set of balls'? That's up to an incredible page 56 (that's right 56!!!)

    http://ourweecountry.ipbhost.com/ind...c=15485&st=825

    And they are still debating the legality of it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lopez View Post
    F*cking hysterical.

    Meanwhile, remember 'O'Connor And Kane Go To The Darkside, when are IFA going to get a set of balls'? That's up to an incredible page 56 (that's right 56!!!)

    http://ourweecountry.ipbhost.com/ind...c=15485&st=825

    And they are still debating the legality of it all.
    Bloody Hell!! - Petitions to FIFA, The small print on Irish Citizenship, The Good Friday Agreement - it's all in there.

    What's the perception - Is it that these young, impressionable, mislead pups have been lured to the Dark Side. Darth Staunton anyone?

    What's wrong with freedom of choice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    ...What's the perception - Is it that these young, impressionable, mislead pups have been lured to the Dark Side. Darth Staunton anyone?

    What's wrong with freedom of choice?
    The last post from 'Big Rab' is revealing 'The thing is, their talent development at a domestic level is already very good. I'm doing a bit of research now, which I'm going to post up soon, about how many Irish born players have appeared in the Premiership in recent seasons, when compared with ourselves and balanced against population size. Essentially, they don't need to poach under 21's from us and the Jocks. But they keep doing it.'

    Woods and trees. Woods and trees.
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    Thanks, but no thanks, Mr Ahern to an "All Ireland" international team.

    Hope the northern born players issue is sorted speedily, and then we can all get on with supporting our respective teams.

    As for the person who said they would like Capaldi -
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    ...Hope the northern born players issue is sorted speedily, and then we can all get on with supporting our respective teams...
    I think you'll find it already is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lopez View Post
    I think you'll find it already is.
    Great - now we can get on with supporting our respective teams.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    As for the person who said they would like Capaldi -
    That was me... Never seen him play but by all acounts the second best left full outside the premiership (after Gareth Bale)... I apologies for my impetiuousness, what with our embarrasment of riches at left full and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_peepee View Post
    That was me... Never seen him play but by all acounts the second best left full outside the premiership (after Gareth Bale)... I apologies for my impetiuousness, what with our embarrasment of riches at left full and all.
    Surly Lewis Emanuel is the second best full back in the championship??
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_peepee View Post
    That was me... Never seen him play but by all acounts the second best left full outside the premiership (after Gareth Bale)... I apologies for my impetiuousness, what with our embarrasment of riches at left full and all.
    He isn't even the first choice left back for Northern Ireland.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopez View Post
    F*cking hysterical.

    Meanwhile, remember 'O'Connor And Kane Go To The Darkside, when are IFA going to get a set of balls'? That's up to an incredible page 56 (that's right 56!!!)

    http://ourweecountry.ipbhost.com/ind...c=15485&st=825

    And they are still debating the legality of it all.
    That thread is priceless alright. A few things. Firstly, I would be dead set against merging with NI in international football. We are too seperate entities. Merged leagues for the island would most definitely be of benifit to clubs North and South but international football is different.

    Dont get me wrong, I would actually love to meet them in qualificiation. Aside from the fact that I would love to stuff them again and see a 75% empty stadium like the last time we played them up there, I personally would always respect their fans when I visit belfast and when they travel down here. They have every right to sing their anthem and fly their flags and display their traditions.

    We should just leave them to their own devices at the moment. The remind me of the bitters (everton) after a derby day win. Their tails are up at the moment. As others have said, when the qualification is finished they will be 2nd from bottom and will have slipped back down the rankings and all will be back to normal. Granted we will probably have finished 3rd or 4th and missed out on qualification again

    Also, didnt that youtube clip from germany make you wanna puke, we really do have some class A1 idiots supporting us. I dream of the day when the minority of our fans lose that stupid mindset!
    Last edited by reder; 24/01/2007 at 6:46 PM.

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