yawn .
[QUOTE=Not Brazil;621785]Remind me why that was?
Wasn't anything to do with the way your fakeweecountry was a shrine to civil rights and democracy, as for Linfield wasn't it something to do with their nice tolerent fans.
Am up their in Parc an Windsor for the Drogs game, will see for myself what its like.
Its crazy to see people be what society wants them to be but not me.
ealing spends more time here than he does over on 'Are we a Country'.
Maybe someone should inform him that his roof is leaking. EalingGreen has been too busy with his misguided flag waving that his own house has gone into disrepair and a marital breakdown is on the cards. Once again your energies should be focused on looking after your own little wee family. You have been too busy conveting another man's family that your own wee family is being forced to seek refuge elsewhere. Shame on you.
Originally Posted by sylvo
Northern Ireland had to play their "home" games in the UK during the early seventies because of "civil unrest" in Northern Ireland.
Linfield were forced to play "home" European games away in the aftermath of trouble in Dundalk in 1979. That fixture took place in a charged atmosphere - coming days after the murder of Lord Mountbatten (and a child) and the murder of 17 British soldiers at Narrow Water.
Thankfully, the political climate in Northern Ireland has somewhat changed since then.
I will be in Drogheda myself on the 26th.
I hope you enjoy the return fixture at Windsor Park.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
classic
IFK101
1. Read again what you have just posted (above);
2. Read the title of the Thread;
3. Now remind me again who is "coveting" what and from whom?
We in NI certainly have our problems, but right now, I don't think we'd swap our problems for yours. Staunton? Delaney? San Marino? No thanks...
Murder? rather emotive language to describe the assassination of Mountbatten or British army in uniform killed after a well planned ambush.
Whether you like that language or not, that's how it's described in the history books.
History also records that Linfield's "trouble" in Dundalk all those years ago was not quite a bit of jaywalking, spilled pints et.c.
trouble is a mild word to describe a night of vicious riots which Linfield fans were held totally responsible for instigating and the club was properly dealt with by UEFA
I would applaud Linfield fc for their efforts to change the political climate in sanitising their support and for the opening declaration that can be read before entering their website,
"Linfield Football Club is an equal opportunities club and will not tolerate any form of sectarianism or racially offensive behaviour or chanting. As part of our on-going commitment to the IFA's "Football for All" campaign, "Kick it out" and to equality, anyone caught making racist or sectarian comments, may be arrested, prosecuted and banned from the club."
So if the killing of Mountbatten was not murder but rather asassination , what about the child involved , what term would you use for that?
Just saw this on the Ulster Council Website!! The IFA's attitude to all things irish has been in the past:
1906: The Irish Federation of Association Football donate £50 to promote soccer in Fermanagh and "combat GAA activities there, which have become unpleasantly popular of late."
Jeez what chance do the IFA have if you are going to bring up events more than 100 years old.
Oh dear, I had feared this thread might degenerate along such lines - if the Mods wish to delete or move this post to another section, I will gladly understand.
Anyhow, for a reasonably neutral (American) take on the Mountbatten bombing, anyone interested might like to read the following:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...0606-4,00.html
Since it is lengthy, I would highlight the following excerpts:
The troubles"in Ulster take a terrible toll
It was a brilliantly sunny, almost windless day at the little fishing village of Mullaghmore overlooking Donegal Bay on Ireland's northwest coast. Lord Louis Mountbatten, 79, the distinguished war hero, diplomat and elder statesman of Britain's royal family, was summering as usual at his turreted stone castle, Classiebawn, in the green hills. Dressed in faded corduroys and rough pullover, Mountbatten was a beloved and folksy figure around Mullaghmore, where he had vacationed for 35 years. He could sometimes be seen standing knee-deep in the waters offshore, fishing for shrimp, and occasionally took local children for a ride on his 27-ft. fishing vessel, Shadow V. This day he pulled up to the boat dock around 11:30 a.m. for what promised to be a superb day of cruising. Joining him were his daughter, Lady Patricia Braourne, 55, her husband Lord Brabourne, 54, their twin sons Timothy and Nicholas, 14, and Lord Brabourne's mother, the Dowager Lady Brabourne, 82. An Ulster schoolboy, Paul Maxwell, 15, whom Mountbatten had given the coveted summer job of boat boy, cast off the moorings, and the Shadow V, powered by a three-cylinder diesel engine, slowly eased beyond the harbor's protecting stone walls until it cleared the long jetty.
The party proceeded along the coast, still only a stone's throw from shore, for a few hundred yards, then stopped to inspect Lord Mountbatten's lobster pots.
Suddenly, an enormous explosion shattered the summer stillness of the harbor. The blast blew the boat "to smithereens," in the words of one eyewitness, and hurled all seven occupants into the water. Nearby fishermen raced to the rescue. Still breathing, Lord Mountbatten was pulled into one of the boats. He died, his legs nearly blown off, almost immediately. Two Belfast doctors on holiday hastily set up a makeshift aid station on the wharf, using old doors for stretchers, broken broomsticks for splints and ripped-up sheets to bind up wounds until ambulances arrived to rush the victims to Sligo General Hospital. Both Mountbatten's grandson Nicholas and the Maxwell youth had been killed in the blast. After a nightlong struggle to save her life, the Dowager Lady Brabourne died the next morning.
A few hours after the explosion came the dreaded confirmation of what many already suspected. "The I.R.A. claim responsibility for the execution of Lord Louis Mountbatten," said a statement issued by the Provisional wing of the Irish Republican Army in Belfast. "This operation is one of the discriminate ways we can bring to the attention of the English people the continuing occupation of our country."
Late last week, as plans were laid for the ceremonial funeral in Westminster Abbey this Wednesday, the bodies of Mountbatten, his grandson and the Dowager Lady Brabourne were flown to Broadlands, his Hampshire estate, to lie in state in the white porticoed mansion. Britons would not soon forget that the distinguished old sea dog, when asked not long ago if he feared an I.R.A. attack, gruffly replied: "What would they want with an old man like me?" A man of civility and simplicity who tried to build bridges instead of exploiting divisions, he could not conceive that his death could be twisted into a violent statement. "I am a man plump in the center," he told TIME'S Frank Melville last year. "I loathe all manifestations of extremism, and I believe we should strive, above all else, for the dignity and human rights of mankind, regardless of race, color and creed."
A 79 year-old war hero, who had holidayed in the Republic for 35 years, without ever uttering a single word on Irish politics, but whose death inspired a week's mourning in India. An eighty two year old woman. A married couple in their fifties. Twin fourteen year old boys and their friend, a 15 year old Irish lad on holiday with his family (who heard the explosion from the beach).
We can call it an "assassination", or "well-planned", but Heaven forbid we should call it "murder"...
Well knowing the IFA, they're still debating over how best to spend the £50. Either that or they all went on a nice holiday.
I'd call it murder but our friends the British government and the Americans call it collateral damage when it happens frequently in Iraq and Afghanistan (the few times they bother even commenting on it). It's no different to what has happenned in wars throughout history.
1. You call it whatever you like. I just wonder do members of of the organisation who perpetrated Mountbatton/Narrow Water refer to events in Loughall as "assassination...after a well planned ambush".
2. Linfield Football Club have taken enormous strides in recent times, and I am proud to be a part of those chages.
Livehead1,
As a member of the most politically exclusive "sporting" organisation in the world, it does you little favour to be throwing stones in the direction of any other organisation.
This is 2007, not 1906.
These days even Linfield Football club have been known to open their facilities for usage by ladies who like to camogie.
Last edited by Not Brazil; 13/02/2007 at 3:27 PM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Bit of a contradiction there don't you think? The Irish Football Association's attitude to all things Irish? Especially in 1906 when we could all agree we were Irish
I think its fair to say that this debate has run its course and any pertinent points that were to be raised , have been raised so I think I will close this thread. If you have any objections PM me or eirebhoy and they will be taken on board.
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