Brits at it again...

**blobbyblob** · 23/01/2005, 1:47 PM

Under the grandparent rule wouldnt the most of the adult population of ireland be entitled to a British passport.

I nominate Roy Keane to be the first Irish player to publiclly declare that he wants to play for England. We secretly send him to Wembley were he inspects the pitch, declares to be the equivalent of a carpark and cause a worldwide consternation for the English FA and he reveals that Sven and Becks are puddin benders and we would secretly be laughing our arrses off at the same time much like the Bigus Dickus scene in the Life of Brian.

We could also claim that the Life of Brian was a great Irish movie.

**blobbyblob** · 23/01/2005, 2:02 PM

Originally Posted by davros

You may well be right........for the sake of our National psyche,let's hope not!

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Thats very disturbing - Hangover just got worse

**carnstien** · 23/01/2005, 5:51 PM

Can't believe I just read through 2 pages of that sh!te. This forum is supposed to concern the Irish soccer team, not this kind of political bullsh!t. Honestly, who gives a sh!t?

**Pat O' Banton** · 23/01/2005, 6:10 PM

After the first three or four posts why did you carry on reading

**1MickCollins** · 23/01/2005, 8:34 PM

Originally Posted by Pat O' Banton

Simply going to call comments like this a 'Patrick J' from now on.

Barry McGuigan being the classic example of this, he went into his fight with Stevie Cruz the a British World Featherweight champion and came out an Irish former Featherweight champion. The Brit bit had no rational anyway as he may have had most of his non championship fights in Belfast but was of course from Clones, which, despite Peter Robinson's best efforts is still in the Republic (as far as I'm aware)

{Apparently the said Barry sang a couple of tunes at O' Rafferty's in Wood Green - �1.60 a pint Sunday to Thursday. This isn't just a cheap plug for Riff Raffs it is a true story - okay and a plug for O' Raff's}

If 'Patrick J' = 'tongue in cheek' , knock yourself out OB.

**Pat O' Banton** · 23/01/2005, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by 1MickCollins

If 'Patrick J' = 'tongue in cheek' , knock yourself out OB.

Ah tounge in cheek, fair enough.

However you may want use the

which kind of gets across the sarcaism of the point.

**brine3** · 23/01/2005, 10:27 PM

Anyone who was born before the Irish Free State in 1922 was officially born in the UK. This inlcudes all my grandparents and means that I could play for Wales, since it doesn't look like I'm good enough for Ireland.

I'll give John Toshack a call.

**Cowboy** · 23/01/2005, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by brine3

Anyone who was born before the Irish Free State in 1922 was officially born in the UK. This inlcudes all my grandparents and means that I could play for Wales, since it doesn't look like I'm good enough for Ireland.

I'll give John Toshack a call.

what about Scotland or NI

**Macy** · 24/01/2005, 8:32 AM

Originally Posted by brine3

Anyone who was born before the Irish Free State in 1922 was officially born in the UK. This inlcudes all my grandparents and means that I could play for Wales, since it doesn't look like I'm good enough for Ireland.

Actually it's anyone born up to 1948. While it was a Free State, it was still part of the commonwealth. Interesting that this came as a suprise to some on a thread lambasting the brits for not knowing their history....

**S�C** · 24/01/2005, 8:48 AM

Originally Posted by Macy

Actually it's anyone born up to 1948. While it was a Free State, it was still part of the commonwealth. Interesting that this came as a suprise to some on a thread lambasting the brits for not knowing their history....

Sure thats right? That would mean that anyone born in Australia today could play for England seeing as they are still in the commonwealth???

I would have though th cut off point would be '22 or '37?

**Macy** · 24/01/2005, 8:56 AM

Originally Posted by S�C

Sure thats right? That would mean that anyone born in Australia today could play for England seeing as they are still in the commonwealth???

I would have though th cut off point would be '22 or '37?

The cut off was 1948 - when the Free State officially became the Republic. The brits changed the rules subsequent to that to stop the immigration from Africa, the Caribbean, India and Pakistan. They had to make it all the commonwealth, so there wouldn't be accusations of racism, for their racist policy (as there was sod all immigration from Australia and New Zealand).

I'm not sure whether you could get a UK passport based on your parents though, as I don't think it's necessarily automatic with the UK. They have more levels of citizenship than here.