Racism/SBB row

**CollegeTillIDie** · 19/01/2007, 9:01 PM

Ok what is going on in Celebrity Big Brother?

India's population is 1.4 billion and Britain's 60 million
Shilpa is 1.4 billion % more attractive than Jade and
Shilpa is also 60 million % more intelligent.
Same goes for the other two female plonkers in their ( Jade's ma and what's her face!)

So it's basic bitchy jealousy behind it all

Bollywood is very underrated outside the Asiatic community.
One of the Bollywood Stars of the 1970's made the Cover of Time Magazine in 1976. Parveen Babi I think is how her name was spelt.

**Neish** · 19/01/2007, 10:24 PM

After watching the events a few times I belive it has been (as usual) completely blown out of proportion my the British Media. It was bullying not racism and whilst I disagree with it, its not as if is hasn't happened in the BB house before.

Also I think that Danielle said thing that could be deemed a lot more racist than anythin Jade said two spring to mind. After one Jade Vs Shilpa argument she said something along the lines of "She should f*vk off home" another time she or someone else asked do Indian's eat with their hands to which she replied someting like ""You don't know where those hands have been."

**bennocelt** · 21/01/2007, 10:15 AM

i have to say i find it racist, they are obviously laughing at her, looking down on her, and making sneering comments about her colour and her nationality
i honestly cant see how this is not racism, i mean if it was a joke i could understand but there is a clear intent with it

i started watching BB, but as soon as that Chav and her family walked into the household, i turned off

and the sad thing is that most young white english people think like those 3 amigos
****s

**Lionel Ritchie** · 21/01/2007, 4:44 PM

why expect more from pigs than grunts?

**paul_oshea** · 22/01/2007, 9:02 AM

interesting, i thought it was a governing thought that this was racism, which i didnt agree with. Think you are right about the British media doing their usual blowing it out of proportion. The brits brought civilisation to india, but they left it there. The brits come across all PC, but in reality they are all racists, we being irish should know this more than anyone!!

I also didnt agree with myself watching BB and moreso friday night telling the taxi driver to turn up the radio so i could hear what jade had to say!

or what!!

**cheifo** · 22/01/2007, 11:01 AM

and the sad thing is that most young white english people think like those 3 amigos
****s[/QUOTE]

87% of the vote(mostly made up of young English white people) voted against Jade.Is your generalisation not racist?

**wws** · 22/01/2007, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

interesting, i thought it was a governing thought that this was racism, which i didnt agree with. Think you are right about the British media doing their usual blowing it out of proportion. The brits brought civilisation to india, but they left it there. The brits come across all PC, but in reality they are all racists, we being irish should know this more than anyone!!

I also didnt agree with myself watching BB and moreso friday night telling the taxi driver to turn up the radio so i could hear what jade had to say!

or what!!

Post of the Month

the internal "logic" of this post deserves a theses in its own right

**osarusan** · 22/01/2007, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by bennocelt

i started watching BB, but as soon as that Chav and her family walked into the household, i turned off

and the sad thing is that most young white english people think like those 3 amigos
****s

"Chav" and generalisations................racism?

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

The brits come across all PC, but in reality they are all racists, we being irish should know this more than anyone!!

Sweeping generalisations..............racism?

Can ye not see the irony in your comments regarding racism in others?

**bennocelt** · 22/01/2007, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by cheifo

and the sad thing is that most young white english people think like those 3 amigos
****s

87% of the vote(mostly made up of young English white people) voted against Jade.Is your generalisation not racist?

[/QUOTE]

you wanna live here, mate!
come to my town on a friday/saturday nite
these are the same 87% that made her a star

**bennocelt** · 22/01/2007, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by osarusan

"Chav" and generalisations................racism?

Sweeping generalisations..............racism?

Racism? I'm not sure.

Astonishingly stupid posts? Yes.

cop yourself on, t wat
i dont like the english, as if i care if you call me a racist!

**paul_oshea** · 22/01/2007, 11:43 AM

Sweeping generalisations..............racism?

it was a bit tongue in cheek, as I assume this is what wws was getting at also.

**cheifo** · 22/01/2007, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by bennocelt

cop yourself on, t wat
i dont like the english, as if i care if you call me a racist!

Nothing like an intelligent,witty response.Osauran put a reasonable response to you or do you undertand irony?Apply for BB mate, they like your kind.

**osarusan** · 22/01/2007, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by cheifo

Nothing like an intelligent,witty response.Osauran put a reasonable response to you or do you undertand irony?Apply for BB mate, they like your kind.

To be fair Chiefo, I did edit my post, but only after he had repiled to the original, where I said his post was "astonishingly stupid". I tried to tone it done but it was too late. I changed it to this -

Originally Posted by osarusan

Can ye not see the irony in your comments regarding racism in others?

So Bennocelt, here is my question in a more polite form -

Do you not think that making comments like you did about English people - or more accurately - young white English people, while saying this -

Originally Posted by bennocelt

i dont like the english, as if i care if you call me a racist!

kind of makes your opinion invalid as you have shown yourself

a - to make comments that would generally be defined as a racist.

b - to not care what people think about those comments.

**Roadend** · 22/01/2007, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by osarusan

"Chav" and generalisations................racism?

Are Chavs a race now?

**osarusan** · 22/01/2007, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Roadend

Are Chavs a race now?

Splitting hairs?

I'm pointing out that the use of these terms in this kind of debate is pretty ironic.

**Roadend** · 22/01/2007, 1:22 PM

Its not splitting hairs at all really, its racist or its not, and Chavs is clearly not in any way shape or form. Since this sorry episode took place you'll see people playing the race card at every opportunity which is just plain wrong.

**osarusan** · 22/01/2007, 1:31 PM

Originally Posted by Roadend

Its not splitting hairs at all really, its racist or its not, and Chavs is clearly not in any way shape or form. Since this sorry episode took place you'll see people playing the race card at every opportunity which is just plain wrong.

Fair enough, although my original point is to show that the use of these terms and making such generalisations, while accusing others of being racist, kind of hinders your whole arguement.

**cheifo** · 22/01/2007, 1:36 PM

In fairness to POS(correct me if I am wrong) but I think the point being made is there is a pervading culture with a lot of young wans that celebrates crudity and witless behaviour while ironically Shipla a middle class indian represented a lot of the old fashioned English stereotypical "virtues" of restraint, stiff upper lip under fire etc.

**paul_oshea** · 22/01/2007, 1:39 PM

In fairness to POS(correct me if I am wrong) but I think the point being made is there is a pervading culture with a lot of young wans that celebrates crudity and witless behaviour while ironically Shipla a middle class indian represented a lot of the old fashioned English stereotypical "virtues" of restraint, stiff upper lip under fire etc.

ya, nail on head, well read cheifo. two sides to every coin if you like. I also thought her skin-colour clouded ( maybe not the most accurate word here) a lot of this.

I have found from my ( relatively short ) time here over the last few years, that there are "two" ( well not only two, but the two most easily categorised

) types of white-brits, shilpa-types, the middle class and the "other" ones that cheifo mentions. There is obviouslly an in-between, but I was sorta making that sweeping generalisation with tongue in cheek.