QuoteDon't forget about Whelan and Coughlan lining out for the Owls
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Last edited by tricky_colour; 16/01/2007 at 7:48 PM.
If Barton does go to Everton, should be a nice opportunity for Ireland.
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very impressive display by ireland i thought, hardly gave the ball away the whole game, very composed on the ball, gave numerous defence splitting passes, good energy, a goal(10 yards out with no keeper,comfortable finish), and only a fantastic goal-line clearance in the last minute from whelan prevented a second goal after a lovely dribble in the box. note to stan; he played in a pretty advanced central role alongside barton and dabo in a three man midfield where any defensive frailties would not be exposed. i must say i like him as a player, definitely deserves a place in the squad, probably not the starting line up but an option nonetheless. dunne didnt have to do much, didnt make any mistakes, a few decent interventions that you would expect him to make.
journeyman coughlan had a pretty poor night, missed one glaring chance and didnt convince at all defensively.
whelan i thought probably didnt have one of his better games. no doubting his commitment and work-rate(excellent effort), but, tonight at least, his range of passing wouldnt catch the eye. he kept things moving nicely, not too many stray passes, decent enough touch, a few good runs into the box, not afraid to tackle by any means. thats only the second time i've seen him, and only on TV, so i wont make my mind up finally but i dont see him offering much for the next three matches. he's only 22 and has been playing regularly in CM of a team i was very impressed with in terms of style of play, movement, passing so definitely worth keeping an eye on
I still can't believe he thought Ireland-Kilbane in a 4-4-2 would work against any international team. One of the worst decisions ever made by an Ireland manager.Originally Posted by kingdom hoop
Good to see Ireland taking his chances this season. Goal:
http://www.4shared.com/file/8975026/...Wednesday.html
Wasn't impressed with Ireland: thought he gave the ball away a fair bit like Whelan otherwise agree with Kingdom's summary.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Kingdom HoopOwls Fanvery impressive display by ireland i thought, hardly gave the ball away the whole game,Which impression has more credibility?Wasn't impressed with Ireland: thought he gave the ball away a fair bit like Whelan otherwise agree with Kingdom's summary.
I was watching it from a point of view to see how much Ireland would hurt Wednesday. He scored ok but the goal was set up by Barton and he played a few other useful passes but he gave the ball away a lot as well like Whelan
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
owls fan has way more posts so maybe he has earned the right to more credibility, or not maybe if he hasnt impressed with his opinions??
bear in mind that he was watching the match through blue and white tinted glasses, that may have clouded his judgement
ireland played a good few incisive passes that created good goalscoring opportunities, i guess andy reid type balls, which i hadnt seen him do too much of before so, and his overall passing i thought was good. one area that definitely needs work though is his shooting, 3 shots that i remember, 2 that a six year old would have hit harder and the other went out for a throw inprompting andy gray to comment that if youre going to shoot wide you may as well go the whole hog and try to put it out for a throw-in, a revolutionary idea, that man really should have been a coach
I thought Ireland played well also and I agree with the Andy Reid comparision.
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Then my inclination is to suspect Owls Fan's eyes were at times tearstained.
I like the player, I hope he continues with his form. I'd assume that Stan will have either him or Reid in the team. Apart from the lack midfield balance against Cyprus with Ireland & Kilbane together, he looked far from sharp enough to be selected then.
True recognition will come when Eirebhoy starts to compare him favourably to the one named N.
The player ratings from the Manchester Evening Times: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....r_ratings.html
Ireland was second in the voting for MOTM behind Barton.Dunne: Strong in the air and didn't lack for pace 7
Ireland: Lively showing brought him a deserved goal 8
Have shed tears for the green, never for the blue and white although plenty reason to.
I would like to see stats of the pass completion rates. I remember Ireland wafting a few over the touchline and saying "great" to myself (with a conscience).
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
The Ireland - Andy Reid comparison is a good one. Both are pretty poor tacklers who are very similar on the ball.
Like Andy Reid, Ireland gives up possession fairly often by trying to play penetrating through balls. But for every few mistakes, he'll put through a player with a great scoring chance.
If not for the horrible finishing of the Man City "strikers," he would have been credited with at least 3 setups.
Sun rated Ireland 9
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2...020596,00.html
Some hack in a raincoat in the Sun: must be correct so.
Andy Reid at his best is different class to Ireland. I used to see a lot of Reid when he played for Forest in the lower divisions. Stood out by a mile. I am so disappointed he hasn't made the progress I'd expect of him at the top level, not helped by injuries. He is in my opinion a far more complete player than Ireland but we shall see.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Ireland is too light IMO. He's still young enough to develop but he needs to bulk up a little. At the top level he's brushed off too easily.
IMO Reid (who is the opposit) is a better player
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I'd agree that Reid is a far more complete player than Ireland but Ireland has time on his side.
Reid has been outstanding in an admittedly poor Charlton team this season. Hopefully he'll do enough to get a move in the summer (Roy Keane's Sunderland anybody?) because I can see them being relegated at this stage.
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didnt compare the players. i was just happy to see the creative aspect of irelands play. i think his tackling is better than reids, both are poor sliders but ireland seems to nip in more to dispossess. he is showing great potential and in time will bulk up. the biggest difference i see is that ireland is going bald at 18ireland played a good few incisive passes that created good goalscoring opportunities, i guess andy reid type balls,
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