Bohs Accept Ward Bid

**wws** · 15/01/2007, 2:12 PM

Donal
pm me your address and I will send you out details of the Pats season tickets. Problem solved everyone is happy.

**Jaime** · 15/01/2007, 2:13 PM

Originally Posted by Donal81

Really? Because there seems to be an awful lot of people on this forum who go to games regularly but still get abuse for not supporting a local side.

Same thing really. If people call themselves fans, yet don't support the domestic game in any way, either at a junior or senior level, then their whole experience of Irish football should be lousy. They deserve a lousy team, a lousy manager, players with lousy attitudes, a lousy CEO with a lousy attitude towards FIFA directives. Never mind being made fun of on the internet.

If only that was the worst part of following Ireland.

**cavan_fan** · 15/01/2007, 2:14 PM

Can someone explain how a thread about Bohs selling Ward has turned into one about corporate hosiptality at Ireland games?

**Superhoops** · 15/01/2007, 2:28 PM

Originally Posted by wws

.......It can only benefit the EL in the long run if a fair percentage of these players go on to make big impacts cross channel. Transfer fees will rise steadily......

There is a school of thought including many on this site who believe that movement of our best players cross channel or anywhere else is detrimental to the EL and that the standard will never be raised if this outflow continues.

My own view is that whether we like it or not, the EL will always be feeder league to cross channel and other places, and clubs when they have the opportunity should maxmise their income with transfer fees which in turn, help sustain those clubs. This is not a lack of ambition at all, but it is simply a fact that there is not and never will be a big enough demand for EL football among supporters/tv/sponsorhip to make all but the biggest of clubs financially viable, part of which involves EL clubs ability to compete with cross channel clubs in respect of players wages.

From a players point of view, there are very few players, who, given the opportunity, would not want to have a go at making it the higher standard of football offered across the channel. If they don't make they generally come back to EL anyway.

**pete** · 15/01/2007, 2:33 PM

Originally Posted by gustavo

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=35848&highlight=gamble
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=21500&highlight=gamble
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=2199&highlight=gamble

Proves my point.
All threads started by eL fans. One for was his U21 days when he had just left Reading. In all those threads non-eL people arguing against his inclusion in forum...

**paul_oshea** · 15/01/2007, 3:31 PM

dodge and wws get real, for those that go to all the ireland matches and are 40 miles at the very least from any EL side should all of a sudden swear allegiance to sSt Pats ( wws ) and are not "true irish supporters" ( which is what you are directly infering ) is bloody ridiculous, thats just as bad as all the young fellas at home jumping ship and going supporting chelsea over the last 2 years. Also, for all those plastics who spend a lot of hard-earned cash travelling europe ( and the world ) to see ireland play both home and away should in some way be involved with EL soccer to be "proper irish" supporters is even more ridiculous.....

**wws** · 15/01/2007, 3:47 PM

for fecks sake it was a tongue in cheek suggestion, lighten up

**NeilMcD** · 15/01/2007, 3:51 PM

I think going to games week in week out is something that EL fans should consider themselves lucky to do. I cant stand people who look down on the EL and take the **** out of it while calling clubs in England we etc etc. However at the same time I dont think a snobbish attitude adopted by some members who go to EL week in week out is healthy either. I think the overall goal is to get people who may be interested in supporting a local EL to go to as many games as possible. This is not as easy for people who live in Clare, or Meath or Wexford etc. They dont have a League of Ireland team to follow and as a result the Ireland team becomes their team that they follow. I would not consider these people OLE OLE OLE people just cause they dont have an EL team. But if you are asking me which is better, watching a game on the tv or watching a game live in Dalymount or Richmond Park or Tolka Park, give me the live game any day of the week.

**paul_oshea** · 15/01/2007, 4:22 PM

Clare, or Meath or Wexford etc.

far more than just those counties!!!

**Soper** · 15/01/2007, 4:32 PM

Wexford will have a team next season.

English people don't seem to have trouble supporting domestic teams in the next town/county over, same with Welsh football fans

**micls** · 15/01/2007, 4:35 PM

Originally Posted by Soper

Wexford will have a team next season.

English people don't seem to have trouble supporting domestic teams in the next town/county over, same with Welsh football fans

Irish people dont seem to have a problem supporting a team in another country so i dont see why another county would be too hard

**passinginterest** · 15/01/2007, 4:36 PM

I think the point on many Irish people following the national team because they don't have a local side to support is very true. Growing up in Wexford the nearest teams would have been Waterford, Kilkenny or Bray and with county rivalry the way it is in Ireland plus travelling distance the Eircom league was never really attractive. I think it's very important that when the FAI looks for new teams for the A and B leagues that they try to have representitives from every county, giving them a chance to potentially bring senior soccer to a much wider audience.

**charliesboots** · 15/01/2007, 4:41 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

far more than just those counties!!!

Hence the etc. in the post.

Originally Posted by Jamie

If people call themselves fans, yet don't support the domestic game in any way, either at a junior or senior level, then their whole experience of Irish football should be lousy. They deserve a lousy team, a lousy manager, players with lousy attitudes, a lousy CEO with a lousy attitude towards FIFA directives.

Agree

Originally Posted by micls

Irish people dont seem to have a problem supporting a team in another country so i dont see why another county would be too hard

Agree with this also, I know lots of Pats fans from Kildare (prior to Kildare having an eL team) and lots from Meath.

**cavan_fan** · 15/01/2007, 4:42 PM

Originally Posted by passinginterest

I think the point on many Irish people following the national team because they don't have a local side to support is very true. Growing up in Wexford the nearest teams would have been Waterford, Kilkenny or Bray and with county rivalry the way it is in Ireland plus travelling distance the Eircom league was never really attractive. I think it's very important that when the FAI looks for new teams for the A and B leagues that they try to have representitives from every county, giving them a chance to potentially bring senior soccer to a much wider audience.

Roll on Ballinamore Utd

**Dodge** · 15/01/2007, 5:07 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

dodge and wws get real, for those that go to all the ireland matches and are 40 miles at the very least from any EL side should all of a sudden swear allegiance to sSt Pats ( wws ) and are not "true irish supporters" ( which is what you are directly infering ) is bloody ridiculous, thats just as bad as all the young fellas at home jumping ship and going supporting chelsea over the last 2 years. Also, for all those plastics who spend a lot of hard-earned cash travelling europe ( and the world ) to see ireland play both home and away should in some way be involved with EL soccer to be "proper irish" supporters is even more ridiculous.....

The only way you can call yourself a football fan is if you go to a game every week. otherwise you're just interested in it. If you follow Man U but say you can't follow Pats because they're miles away you're an idiot.

Not calling you an idiot, just saying that EVERYBODY who uses this excuse, whilst at the same time following an English or Scottish team, is an idiot.

**Kingdom** · 15/01/2007, 5:11 PM

Originally Posted by Jaime

Same thing really. If people call themselves fans, yet don't support the domestic game in any way, either at a junior or senior level, then their whole experience of Irish football should be lousy. They deserve a lousy team, a lousy manager, players with lousy attitudes, a lousy CEO with a lousy attitude towards FIFA directives. Never mind being made fun of on the internet.

If only that was the worst part of following Ireland.

Its the highlighted bit that makes the majority of this thread a load of ballacks. I thought you had to be an eL fan to be a real fan? Now the scope is broadened to people who follow local junior or senior soccer. Those of us who disagree with that point of view put forward genuine reasons why there are so many non-eL-Ireland fans and the arguement gets that bit more skewwed from the Naziesque eL fans.
Just out of interest do the real fans like wws who support Pats go down to Bricker on a Sat morning to watch the mini-teams play or head over to Michaels estate on a Sunday afternoon to watch the youth teams play. Surely the real fans of the eL do this, because as EB pointed out there are plenty of people who consider the NAtional team as their "local" side who go to all the Age groups not just the Senior side.
Maybe if there was a bit more structure to the local game in Ireland then more people would pay attention to the game at the highest level in Ireland, the eL. Its the only thing the GAA has over soccer here, structure. How many off-shoot teams do you see in soccer. Hundreds. Not too much loyalty in soccer here.

**Soper** · 15/01/2007, 5:21 PM

Wow, 'Naziesque'.

**youngirish** · 15/01/2007, 5:35 PM

Hooperatzi you spout some s*ite. I'd say you haven't a clue about most of the good players in the Ireland youth setups yet you claim to be a the top of the supporters pyramid because you watch some substandard drivel every other week that has (like it or not) nothing to do with the national team. At least Man Ure supporters can claim to be supporting some of our national team players (the same ones that get us to International competitions).

How many of those EL players play for Ireland?