Euro 2008

**Ordinary Fan** · 23/08/2007, 3:40 PM

let's not get carried away with a friendly, the result was great but the Danes were'nt interested and still should have scores first. Our competitive away form is rubbish and as much as I want us to qualify, I think we are still short of players and experience to make it.

I think we will unluckly draw 1:1 with Slovakia and a third Irish side with injuries and suspensions will loose 2:0 to the Czechs!

**paul_oshea** · 23/08/2007, 4:18 PM

Again, Im with wolfie on this.

**billybunter** · 23/08/2007, 4:19 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Time to sober up Billy

todays odds
Czechs to qualify 2/9
Ireland to qualify 7/2
Ireland not to qualify 1/5

guess the bookies dont agree with my logic then. Fook them!

**DmanDmythDledge** · 23/08/2007, 4:33 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Do you think I haven't looked at the fixtures? For some reason people think me saying "2 points isn't the end of the world" means "2 points would be fantastic".

Anyway,

Ireland:
Slovakia (a) - Draw
Czech (a) - Draw
Germany (h) - Win
Cyprus (h) - Win
Wales (a) - Win

Czechs:
San Marino (a) - Win
Ireland (h) - Draw
Germany (a) - Defeat
Slovakia (h) - Win
Cyprus (a) - Win

Leaves us both on 24 points. That is all I've said. If we draw these 2 games we're certainly not out of it.

I was thinking the same but for us to draw with Germany and the Czechs to draw with Cyprus.

It could well be enough to get us through but as I'd agree with youngirish (and whovever else said it) that we need to aim for more to be sure.

**paul_oshea** · 23/08/2007, 4:45 PM

cyprus could only beat san marino 1 - 0, do you honestly think that they are going to pose any threat in a meaningless last group game to the czechs?

**Torn-Ado** · 23/08/2007, 5:51 PM

Still don't think we'll qualify regardless of last nights result.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 23/08/2007, 7:32 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

cyprus could only beat san marino 1 - 0, do you honestly think that they are going to pose any threat in a meaningless last group game to the czechs?

Did you not listen to Stan, it's a difficult place to go to.

Cyrpus are a good team at home (not just saying that because they beat us). They held Germany to a draw and beat Spain a few years ago. They only lost 1-0 away to the Czechs as well.

**Paddy Garcia** · 23/08/2007, 8:17 PM

I'd be very surprised if we beat Germany. Better to go for 2 away wins.

**eirebhoy** · 23/08/2007, 9:15 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

cyprus could only beat san marino 1 - 0, do you honestly think that they are going to pose any threat in a meaningless last group game to the czechs?

yes. Surely we know by now that Cyprus are a decent side at home. As for it being a meaningless game for Cyprus. It was no different for Malta in similar circumstances a few years ago:
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive...25/report.html

Cyprus will treat it like they treat every game. It's not like they're aiming for qualification anyway.

As for Paddy Garcia's comment, I'd honestly be surprised if Germany beat us.

**stojkovic** · 23/08/2007, 9:32 PM

I think four points is a MINIMUM requirement in Central Europe.

Assuming the Czechs lose in Germany I think can get whatever we need against Germany and Wales to qualify. Germany will already have won the group and hopefully we can call in a few favours against the Welsh.

So if we get the four points I think we WILL qualify.

**Paddy Garcia** · 23/08/2007, 9:59 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

As for Paddy Garcia's comment, I'd honestly be surprised if Germany beat us.

But you are counting on a win.

TBH given our recent competitive performances I would not at all be surprised to lose that game, & likely a reasonable performance whcih Stan can consider as a moral victory. Think a draw is most likely though.

**eirebhoy** · 23/08/2007, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

But you are counting on a win.

Not really. I was just pointing out that 2 draws in the next 2 games could see us qualifying if we won our remaining 3 games. I'm confident we could beat Germany though.

**Wolfie** · 24/08/2007, 8:51 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Again, Im with wolfie on this.

Sound, Posh. Great to see that you place such a high value on my opinion.

As we both know, my view on here is as legitimate as anyone elses. No more, no less.

The petty attempts to sarcastically single me out and therefore rubbish my view is a bit sad.

This was such a ridiculous thread for me to introduce - there's obviously such a low level of interest in assessing the boards mood of whether we've a chance of qualifying or not. The point being, if no-ones interested, the thread will have a natural life span and die off.

The thread that everyone really wants to discuss, of course, is "The word "Job" when playing for your country" .

**paul_oshea** · 24/08/2007, 9:02 AM

Sound, Posh. Great to see that you place such a high value on my opinion.

As we both know, my view on here is as legitimate as anyone elses. No more, no less.

The petty attempts to sarcastically single me out and therefore rubbish my view is a bit sad.

Wolfie dont be getting upset, I was actually being serious!!

I noticed that you wrote the same sorta stuff as I would. Dont be so sensitive

**citizenerased** · 24/08/2007, 9:19 AM

in fairness the group is over-rated..we should get 4 points in the two games at least...anything less in unacceptable...d the only thing id doubt would be the players bottle..

**bwagner** · 24/08/2007, 11:44 AM

citizenerased - spot on mate just take a look at this group
Poland
Finland
Portugal
Serbia
Belgium
Armenia
Kazakhstan
Azerbaijan

To me that is a real tuff group

**carloz** · 24/08/2007, 12:02 PM

Denmark
Sweden
Spain
Northen Ireland
Latvia
Iceland
Leichtenstein

There is another very difficult group if we were in it. With the exception of Germany we are in a very easy group, IMO the easiest geoup of the lot. I dont understand how some people are saying we have the hardest group. To the best of my knowledge Scotland were seeded the same as us and look at the group they got. Of course people will then comed back with the stupid argument that we play better against good teams, i really dont understand why this is the case. The simple thing is qualifying from this group is in our own hands, if we do our own business we will qualify. If we beat the Slovaks that will really set up the Czech game and im sure they will not be looking forward to playing us

**P�d Von Tirpitz** · 24/08/2007, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by bwagner

To me that is a real tuff group

I disagree - it's more of a tough group.

Ireland to take two points from the next two games and still hold out faint hope, against all common sense. I don't think it's going to happen this time but we've probably started to head in the right direction and a lot rests on the draw for the next qualifiers.